J10, QK, QJ, J9 SS?? all in hands?

Just wondering, if you have about 15 bb & pick up one of these hands, in a deep stack tourney, is it ok to go all in? I do & it works out 60% of the time for me, wanted to know CCs take on it?

With 15 bb I am not sure you are getting called by anything that doesn't beat you with that range. I suppose if it is working for you then go right ahead, it just seems a bit worrisome to me.

What do you normally end up being called with in these scenarios?

With 15BB you can go all in with all those hands but it's not profitable in every position, from button and small blind you can go all in with all these hands profitably.

azforlife said:

Just wondering, if you have about 15 bb & pick up one of these hands, in a deep stack tourney, is it ok to go all in? I do & it works out 60% of the time for me, wanted to know CCs take on it?

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Generally these are all good shoving hands on 15bb and less, even from early position.

In fact,a 15bb Nash range from UTG (9 handed, 10% ante) is:

JTs, QTs+, KTs+, A5s, A9s+, AJo+, 66+.

Nash chart says it all, it feels rough because a lot of the time you’re dominated but 15bb is fit or fold territory so you just have to get there.

with 15 big blinds i think you dont need to go all in...you can play these hands raising on position...

You can shove those type of hands but from positions like cutoff and button if its folded to you and if players behind you are tight on calling of all ins(if you didnt see them pay off 15bb with A4o,K10 etc)

Yes, you can go all-in with these hands in late positions, but I'm not sure that this is the most optimal solution. Especially if the level of blisters grows slowly.

Good point, I usually get called by A10-k or KQ, Kj hands.

burton_boy said:

With 15 bb I am not sure you are getting called by anything that doesn't beat you with that range. I suppose if it is working for you then go right ahead, it just seems a bit worrisome to me.

What do you normally end up being called with in these scenarios?

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Good point, I usually get called by A10-k or KQ, Kj hands.

I would by be shoving in early position with these at a full table, but I am talking about games like free rolls where calling ranges of opponents is way too wide. CO, button, SB in an in opened pot, shove. How we play these seems so dependant on our opponents calling ranges where hands like AK or even AQ is a no brainer, we shove even when they call wide from UTG and find ourselves ahead pretty often.

with low stack (less than 10bb) i think is a good decision to shove whit those hands but with position and pushing not calling.

personally with these cards I would not go all in from any position, you will always find rivals with better cards than you
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Sometimes I risk this type of cards when my stad is small at a final table because the blinds are high and you can not wait long

15 bbs can go most of the hands of the hands, but depending on the position you are.

I find it depends on 15BB early tourney or 15BB late tourney. if its early try to set a trap for maximum potential at winning the pot if its late game all-in shoves are probably your best bet. 15BB late game could be 15k or 30k and the average stack up and around 150K so best to get it in while its worth it for double up odds

I wouldn't normally open shove with 15 bbs but it's not a bad play.

Prob shouldn't go all in with QJ and J9 at anytime except if they're suited after the bubble.

I do not think your statistics are correct, it might work for you in the freerolls but to play real money tournaments or CASH tables you have to be more selective with your cards. If you won with those cards 60% of the time it's just luck

Yes it works... i do all in when i have only 15bb with taht cards..

Those are very solid hands. You can play them any number of ways different on different factors like time of tourney, opponents, position, chipstack.

With 15 BB you should be shoving them mostly or folding them sometimes.

I disagree with shoving just because you only have 15BBs. I've made a comeback from just 5-10 BBs by sticking with solid play instead of just shoving. I strongly believe in the chip and a chair approach to poker and shoving just cuz you'r low defies that philosophy. My suggestion would be to bet about 7 BBs. That makes people think you've got a monster and are trying to lure them in and a lot of times they will fold. And if they don't you can always go all-in post flop, or save those chips for a nice chip and a chair come back.

Depends on the raises in front of you ..... And players

these are hands to raise when 15 bb and definitely not push. what do you expect to call you t9 ? with 5 bb yes but defo not with 15...

JonathanAReth said:

I disagree with shoving just because you only have 15BBs. I've made a comeback from just 5-10 BBs by sticking with solid play instead of just shoving. I strongly believe in the chip and a chair approach to poker and shoving just cuz you'r low defies that philosophy. My suggestion would be to bet about 7 BBs. That makes people think you've got a monster and are trying to lure them in and a lot of times they will fold. And if they don't you can always go all-in post flop, or save those chips for a nice chip and a chair come back.

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Exactly... Ppl go into panic mode wen they get short and shove shit or any ace. I've came back from 9bb to win before and yesteryear a I came back in the 3.30 8max from 5.5bb to reach the money. I didn't win but came 85th out of 690 and won $9