Please help me out a little bit

Hi!

I am new to this online poker but i really want to get good at it and start to play and maybe some day play and do some profit from it..


I am only going to play texas hold'em couse that's the only poker i know and understand a little abaut..

It would be nice to still be in profit while im learning but then again i will give it time so i learn it and get really great at it

But i need some help with what type of games i should be playing now in the begining and how i should play and what hands i should play..


I am playing on pokerstars atm..

Take care guys

Play at the lowest level you can find and deposit a small amount and go from there. Different games suit different people so try a few variations until you find the game that you like best.

Agree. Also rememeber getting good at poker takes tremendous patience . Start off small and see how it goes. Also try to read up and watch some videos , it will help improve. Good luck and have fun

If I were you I would join pokerstars pokerschool and watch videos of pros playing in tables and participate in training before I jump into the tables. when you start playing I would play at 0,01/0,02 and don't move from there until you have profits on a 50k hand sample

A beginner should start with micro sng´s, the easiest form of poker to learn and play. There are many good ressources about it in the interwebs.

play the level of the game you may affordable to lose. LOL

GL

Welcome to online poker, only bet what u can afford to lose, stay disciplined, use bankroll management and have fun.

So simple and eloquent, yet so hard for so many

Welcome to CC. As matiusaa recommended, sign up with PSO and learn the basics. You'll find it under Poker School TAB when you login to PS.

Hey!

Ty for the info all you guys that have posted but i have some questions abaut videos etc..

Were can i get some really good lessons from PROS or some videos where they talk abaut how i should play etc for most profit...

I dont find anything like that on pokerstars pokerschool (intellpoker)

Pleace share if you have some good sites were i can start looking

Take care guys!

As a beginner, you can learn from many players. They don't have to be big-name pros. They just have to be reasonably better than you are.

And you should focus on training that's appropriate to your level. At the entry and even intermediate levels, it seldom matters how top pros use advanced thinking and plays against their higher-level opponents since your opponents don't think or play like theirs do.

As for maximizing profit, learn to play a decent winning game first.

watch a lot of videos, and read subject relaed to poker, start from basics, try not to rush up your way instead of, ry to learn step by step, watch some pros playing, learn how to tag players, learn to play tight, what the odds mean and how to calculate them, there are a lot of content in this forum that you can read and a lot of people that can help in the process

Others have said it well: just be patient, focus on fundamentals, and practice discipline.

You also need to understand that while you're learning, it's practically impossible to be profitable outside of luckboxing a big tourney win (which bad/losing players can sometimes do). That's okay, just embrace it and consider it an investment in your future. As I'll point out below, do not consume yourself with profits, there's a more important goal you should be striving for. And as has been said, don't play higher stakes than you can afford, because you can expect to load and reload multiple times while you figure things out. I'd also suggest avoiding trying to "build from zero" by playing freerolls like a lot of beginners start out with. It's certainly possible, but it's a highly frustrating variance nightmare that can distract you from developing a proper poker mindset. Just deposit what you can afford to lose and get on with your game.

To add to what's been suggested, here's some other beginner tips and pitfalls to be wary of:

• Don't be results oriented. Success at poker is measured over the long term. Short term results are irrelevant. Don't get caught up on bad beats or coolers. It's poker, they happen. Regularly. Get used to it. Variance is a bitch (especially in MTTs) and you'll never avoid it, so learn to understand it.
• At the micro stakes you'll be starting out with, a lot of plays you'll face will make no sense. YOUR goal is to make the correct decisions for the given situation, no matter the outcome or what other players should or should not do.
• On that note, do NOT make the unfortunately common boneheaded mistake that a lot of beginning online players make, namely to blame results on rigged theories rather than standard variance or bad plays. I cannot stress this enough. Almost nothing will retard (swidt?) your progress like being a rigtard.
• Beginners often think the goal is to win/make money. No, the goal is to make correct decisions. When you learn to do that consistently, the profits will come automatically over the long term.
• Post interesting or questionable HH's here in the appropriate analysis forums. Wear a thick skin and listen to the (sometimes blunt) responses you'll get from experienced players. In particular, there can be multiple "correct" ways to play a given hand, but in general when you get a consensus telling you how you butchered a hand, they're probably right and you should listen to them. Don't be overly defensive like some who post hands and then get offended at the feedback. Also, unfortunately you're likely to get feedback from people as clueless as you, so again look for consensus as you learn to separate the wheat from the chaff.
• On that note, almost all beginners think they're better than they are. Try not to fall into that trap and understand that even seasoned players always have something to learn. Listen more and argue less.
• BRM is absolutely essential to your success once you're on a profitable path. While learning and losing, not so much, so don't get too caught up with it starting out. Just know that you'll need to plan to invest whatever it takes to get the hang of the stakes you're playing.

Yeah, i will take it slow and really learn everything the best i can and not rush things..

But i really need help whit that ODDS and POSITION play/talk that everyone talks abaout..

No mather who talks poker they allways talks abaout odds/potodds and position and how important that is etc..

I really want to learn that but i dont know were the best info is..

Any of you guys that can help me out whit that or tell me some website were it explains it VERT GOOD?

You may want to start with reading "No Limit Hold 'em: Theory and Practice" by David Sklansky and Ed Miller. Then move on "Harrington on Cash Games."

newcomers better to go to the game on good cards and play straightforward, not bluffing at least until ITM

start watching videos and read more before you deposit real money..it will help you not to bust everything in the begining .
good luck.

Another good read is
The Poker Mindset: Essential Attitudes for Poker Success

by Ian Taylor
gl on and off the felts

The support here is just over the top..

Everything i will learn just because of you and other people on this forum is just truly amazing!

Dam ladybugger, what's your excuse????:hmmmm Someone must have pissed in your cheerios this morning, that response was way outta line geeeez.

Youtube is your friend.

Daniel Negreanu has a lot of video's to learn from

Here are some shows to enjoy watching while learning:

High Stakes Poker season 1-6 : It's a fun show to watch Gabe Kaplan and AJ Benza are very funny together (commentators) and Gabe Kaplan can be very informative.

The Big Game: Another fun show, Joe Stapleton (commentator) is great to learn from very informative, explains the math very well and explains everything very well. Plus for enjoyment aspect he is also funny

EPT Events: Joe Stapleton does commentary on these as well (I'd recommend the ones with Liv Boeree at the tables.

for online videos

Phil Galfond a great player to learn from he has a lot of commentary on his play.

Daniel Negreanu 2013 player of the year: Has some commentary videos as well

Don't forget to read books :

Doyle Brunsons Super System 1 & 2

Phil Hellmuth "Play poker like the pros" - great for learning tight ABC poker

Daniel Negreanu - has books ranging from amateur to advanced

Important: don't mistake short-term luck for skill. Sometimes you will get a hot run of cards that makes it seem like you've got it all figured out, then all of a sudden you've lost everything you made and then some, especially if you try to move up in stakes sooner than you should.

Also, I see a lot of newer players make the mistake (made it many times myself and still do) of thinking that the better hand pre-flop deserves to win and going on tilt when it doesn't. Even if you make the right decisions on every street you can still lose all your chips, the important point is to realize that over the long term if you're making the right decisions you will show a profit. Your opponents can and will get rewarded for making mistakes at your expense, this is part of poker so you have to learn to accept it. At the same time, sometimes you will make a mistake on a hand and get rewarded handsomely for it. This doesn't mean that it's not a mistake, over the long term making this same play in this situation will cost you more than you gain.

Experience is also key, there are so many possible situations in every hand that no book or video can cover everything. Play as many hands as you can, and at the same time monitor and study your play so that you aren't making the same mistakes over and over. You will find that many lessons you read and see won't really start to stick until you've faced a similar situation with your chips at risk.

A question i have..

I have played limted holdem 0.01-0.02 now in the begining..

Should i play limited or should i play no limit?

And then, should i only be playing on 1 table in the begining for maximum results?

Or should i play 2 tables at the same time?

Whats your thoughts guys?

Take care guys!

If you stick to playing just premium hands like any pocket pair above 10s or AK to A10, you will end up saving alot of money. At least until you get a feel for the game and can start playing lesser hands in position.

You need to start at PLAY MONEY!!

I play with money, but i don't know if i should play fixed limit or no limt holdem now in the begining

I don't recommend play money at all beyond just experimenting with the software and learning the absolute basics of the game. The micros are bad enough at distracting you from proper play while you're trying to hone your poker skills, play money would be even worse. Heck if the money wasn't an issue for you and you had a little more poker knowledge already I'd suggest you skip directly to 10NL or even 25NL. You'd lose more money at first but I think your education would be accelerated and you get on the road to profits quicker.

Fixed limit will reduce your swings because you can't play overly bloated pots. Learning all games is good for your overall poker skillset. However limit is a very different games in terms of strategy so it's not like you just jump from one to the other. If your long-term goal is to play NLHE, then I'd start at the NLHE micros and learn from there.

No matter what game or limit you start with, however, you need to have some reasonable expectations and understand what we've all been telling you in this thread. You will NOT be profitable at first. It can take some people a long time to become profitable, and many never achieve it. It takes a lot of hard work, and the more time you put into study away from the table the quicker you'll get there and the less it will cost you in losses. You sound like you want a quick solution, but there isn't one. If this game were that easy then everyone would be winning (which means the game couldn't sustain itself). The only reason poker continues is because there are a lot more losers than winners.

You only understand " a little bit about the game"? I definitely wouldn't recommend you skip straight to 25nl. You most certainly need to learn the game in and out before you start playing for real money. Internet poker is a good place to start(Play money) because you see many more hands and playing and learning from other players has its perks.(As opposed to trying to play and learn by yourself with a deck of cards)

I disagree strongly here. Not necessarily about starting at 25NL -- I only threw that out for those that have no trouble handling the losses at those limits while they learn the game.

There's very little "good" to be learned from other play money players, and a whole lot of "bad." As I said, beyond just learning the mechanics of the game and software, if you have any serious intentions about learning to play proper poker, you have to invest real money. The more bad habits you pick up in play money games, the harder it's going to be to adjust when you do make it to real money games. (Obviously I don't feel this way about special, private play money games such as CC League games).

When I started playing online (and I had not played live in probably 25+ years, and never NLHE), I started at 10NL to get a feel for it, then moved to 25NL briefly before moving to 50NL. I probably jumped to 50NL within 10K hands, and certainly not as a winner. I deposited what I needed to play comfortably and learned faster by jumping in the deep end of the pool. Different strokes for different folks, but for me it was the best way to motivate me to learn how to play quicker. At the nano limits there just wasn't enough money at stake to keep my interest and effort. For some people, both the risk and the reward have to be high enough to bother putting forth the effort necessary to succeed.

I understand Dmorris exactly what you're saying and very true about trying to lose those bad habits you pick up at play money games, but OP doesn't have a clue about any other form of poker except texas holdem. As you explained when you first started grinding online you haven't played live in 25 years and especially not NLHE, but you played all other types of poker(25 years prior) and that enabled you to probably pick up the game much faster. I think OP just got over learning the best poker hands and now learning the basics of texas holdem therefore I think its way too early for a player of his stature to be thrown to the sharks at 25nl. Everyone has and opinion, That's just mine.

Dmorris, when you started online you said you haven't played in 25 years right?? But you knew the game(texas holdem) from 25 years prior? You were pretty much a seasoned holdem player when you started grinding online. That's a totaly different ballgame in comparison to a player who is just now learning the game. That's like comparing skiing to football.

That's pretty much what I meant by "learning the mechanics of the game." Once you understand the rules, betting patterns, and hand strengths, there's not much other reason to stay at play money unless you just like to play video games. Nothing against video games, I play them too, just not poker, because none of the other games I might play have the earning potential.

I agree with Dmo maybe not at 25NL but play real money games and not play money I started out by playing a $11 MTT (I got in it through promo points) got 2nd place for $800 and started playing 25NL I sucked.. it was the best learning experience ever..

I ended up playing $1,000NL for awhile and went broke can't learn that in a book..

I learned so much more losing then I would of ever learned playing play money...

play in free rolls (cardschat free rolls would be great once you qualify) play 2NL and learn

You can't get good at golf by just watching you got to spend the money on the clubs and everything for the experience, its just the amount of golf balls you lose in the woods or water hazards that you want to try to limit.

OHH guys, u have all missed what i ment..

I am not good at online poker (yet) and i am not rushing anything, i am taking every thing day by day to learn everything good and solid.

The only thing i was thinking abaut when i do play, (currenlty playing micro fixed limit on pokerstars)

The only thing i was wondering was that if i should play NL or fixed limit, it would still be micro stakes..

0.01-0.02..

We understood this very well actually. I don't think you understand what we're saying, because you keep asking questions that have already been clearly answered.

No, I had never played Hold'em. In my young days I played 5-card draw and stud games, always limit, and very casually. I knew nothing about Hold'em, and certainly not NLHE, until my brother-in-law introduced me to the game and I picked up a book on it. So about the only experience I brought to the game was knowing the poker hand rankings. No real idea of starting hands, what position meant, bet sizing, what a flop/community game even was... nothing else really. I read a book, got the basic gist, and jumped online.

So basically what I said could apply to anyone with a similar, very basic knowledge of poker in general.

I'm sorry. I misunderstood your post. I thought you said you played(holdem) 25 years prior.
Oh ok "never NLHE"