$275 NLHE MTT Rebuy: Freeroll into $1,000,000 OSS tournament on America'a Cardroom

$275 NLHE MTT Rebuy: Freeroll into $1,000,000 OSS tournament on America'a Cardroom

Played down to the last 6 of 701 in a Jackpot freeroll for a seat in a Super Satellite. The Super satellite starts at 11:30 am, Sunday and the main event starts at 3:00 pm Finish 78th in the satellite in which 102 seats were awarded. So at 4:00 pm I get my seat at the $250 + $25, $1,000,000 OSS tournament, easily the largest tournament I have ever played in. To the hand:

I am 2 hours into the game, blinds are 100/200 and I have a few more than the 5,000 chip starting stack, call it 27BBs. I have been playing relatively tight, but have opened 4 times from the cutoff, once with a total bluff after not playing for 20 hands. Villain, in the BB, has 3-bet three of those. I folded twice and call, folded the flop the third time. Villain is playing very loose, and has either 3-bet or folded when she is OOP. One of those 3-bets I folded to was the previous hand.

I'm dealt TT, UTG Villain min bets. It folds to me and I call, thinking if I 3-bet I'll have 1/3 of my stack in and have to call a 4-bet shove.. It folds to the BB who also calls. Pot is 6.5BBs and I have 25BB behind.

Flop comes 983 with 2 hearts. BB checks and Villain bets 3BB and I call thinking I have under represented my hand, Villain is agro, and she would C-Bet almost anything. BB calls as well, getting the odds to draw. Pot is 15.5BB and I have 22BB behind.

Turn comes a 3 of spades pairing the board. BB checks, Villain checks. I bet 8BB, BB folds and Villain shoves. I still have 1/2 my stack if I fold, but I'm getting 45BB for my last 14BBs and if I win, I'll have an above average stack,

I'm losing to 99, 88, any 3 and over pairs. I'm beating broadway bluffs, 98, under pairs, straight draws and flush draws.

I doubt she has a 3. A3 suited unlikely UTG even for an agro. I think she bets more pre and on the flop with AA or KK. I figure I have the odds to call, so I do and she shows me QQ. It holds up and I'm out

Questions:

1. Should I 3-bet fold to a 4-bet pre-flop
2. Should I 3-bet push to a 4-bet pre-flop (not knowing Villain has QQ).
3. Should I re-raise the flop?
4. Should I check back the turn and call river to a reasonable bet, fold to a push?

I think there's a lot of really passive, somewhat scared thinking going into this hand.

First off, everything you've described about the villain suggests that she is capable of being pretty wide here pre, and just flatting TT off of a 27bb stack seems somewhat crazy to me. You didn't want to 3bet so you didn't have to get it in? I mean I understand, we're not FIST PUMPING if she 4bet jams, but we're also never ever folding. TT has 40% against JJ+/AQ+ and that's like an absolute worst case scenario imo, plus if we DO get jammed on we end up getting a reasonable price and will have to call. (Say we go 6bb, they jam 27bb effective, we need to call 21bb into 35-36bb. So need like 36-38% equity, which we basically always have.)

You can see right away on this flop the types of problems we'll have when we don't 3bet preflop as well. This is one of the better boards for this hand (no overcards at all) and we still have a tricky time with a flush draw on board. I'd probably be raising and getting it in since we can get it in against flush draws and also rep flush draws ourselves so 9x prob is never folding. 8x may not fold either. Straight draws are available too, though we block the most likely ones.

As played, I vastly prefer just jamming turn to betting half our stack. We look more bluffy, and the possibility of getting called by the BB with 9x is still there. It's gonna be so rare that either player has us beat now, but particularly the BB since they just called pre AND just overcalled flop.

As played betting small on turn I don't know man. We can't fold, but I also feel like we created the most likely spot where we are beat? There should still be some draws available I guess? But it seems unlikely. We can't fold with this price, but the annoying thing about these spots is that we have next to no equity when we're behind. I'm not folding either, but I think we should look closely at the earlier streets.

Just read the entire post again. You are priced in there IMO.

Scourrge said:

I think there's a lot of really passive, somewhat scared thinking going into this hand.

First off, everything you've described about the villain suggests that she is capable of being pretty wide here pre, and just flatting TT off of a 27bb stack seems somewhat crazy to me. You didn't want to 3bet so you didn't have to get it in? I mean I understand, we're not FIST PUMPING if she 4bet jams, but we're also never ever folding. TT has 40% against JJ+/AQ+ and that's like an absolute worst case scenario imo, plus if we DO get jammed on we end up getting a reasonable price and will have to call. (Say we go 6bb, they jam 27bb effective, we need to call 21bb into 35-36bb. So need like 36-38% equity, which we basically always have.)

You can see right away on this flop the types of problems we'll have when we don't 3bet preflop as well. This is one of the better boards for this hand (no overcards at all) and we still have a tricky time with a flush draw on board. I'd probably be raising and getting it in since we can get it in against flush draws and also rep flush draws ourselves so 9x prob is never folding. 8x may not fold either. Straight draws are available too, though we block the most likely ones.

As played, I vastly prefer just jamming turn to betting half our stack. We look more bluffy, and the possibility of getting called by the BB with 9x is still there. It's gonna be so rare that either player has us beat now, but particularly the BB since they just called pre AND just overcalled flop.

As played betting small on turn I don't know man. We can't fold, but I also feel like we created the most likely spot where we are beat? There should still be some draws available I guess? But it seems unlikely. We can't fold with this price, but the annoying thing about these spots is that we have next to no equity when we're behind. I'm not folding either, but I think we should look closely at the earlier streets.

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Thanks for the thoughtful post. First let me say, I am normally a 5/10NL full ring cash player and in a cash game I am 3-betting, calling a 4 bet every time. But then again I would never have only 27 BB in a cash game.

I have to agree I was playing not to lose, over valuing my tournament life so far from the money. This strategy worked well in the two qualifier tournaments, but put a target on my back in the big tourney. I showed have realized being dropped in to the game at level 6, I needed to more aggressive.

Looking back, given Villain's range II should have raised called a jam or shoved myself at every street, but jamming the turn is far and away the better than raising with so little behind.

OP, I disagree with Scourrge, I think you don't need to 3-bet preflop. Your decision to call was a right decision, TT is not strong enough to 3-bet utg open.

Also, I like your play on the flop. utg has over-pairs and sets, so no reason to re-raise. But, for same reasons I don't like your bet on the turn. Utg still can have so many cards that beat you, and he also can trap not only with sets, but with AA and KK too, because those hands are pretty safe if they are not beat already. I think checking on the turn and re-evaluating on the river would have been better. Once you bet though, you can not fold, you have too good odds to fold there.

Mathematically, throwing a bet in on the turn forces you to call on the river. Checking back with TT seems a little timid, but against agro players, the only way to control the pot. You played it well, and she had QQ. Nothing you can do about it but move on to the next tourny.