Is there anything wrong with this or is this just a standard cooler?

pokerstars GAME #17557417370: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.01/$0.02) - 2008/05/20 - 00:47:28 (ET)
Table 'Antigone II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: D'wilius ($2.59 in chips)
Seat 2: rrope ($5.30 in chips)
Seat 3: TRM_SHRiMP ($5.88 in chips)
Seat 4: jaxter1970 ($3.86 in chips)
Seat 5: WVUHillbilly ($2.96 in chips)
Seat 6: zachvac ($6.72 in chips)
TRM_SHRiMP: posts small blind $0.01
zachvac said, "knew I'd flop 2 pair"
jaxter1970: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zachvac [4c 2s]
WVUHillbilly: raises $0.06 to $0.08
zachvac: raises $0.16 to $0.24
D'wilius: folds
rrope: calls $0.24
TRM_SHRiMP: calls $0.23
jaxter1970: folds
WVUHillbilly: calls $0.16
*** FLOP *** [As 7s 6c]
TRM_SHRiMP: checks
WVUHillbilly: checks
zachvac: bets $0.80
rrope: folds
TRM_SHRiMP: raises $1 to $1.80
WVUHillbilly: folds
WVUHillbilly is sitting out
zachvac: raises $1.45 to $3.25
TRM_SHRiMP: raises $1.45 to $4.70
zachvac: raises $1.45 to $6.15
TRM_SHRiMP: calls $0.94 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.51) returned to zachvac
*** TURN *** [As 7s 6c] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [As 7s 6c Ts] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TRM_SHRiMP: shows [6d 7d] (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
zachvac: mucks hand
TRM_SHRiMP collected $11.66 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.26 | Rake $0.60
Board [As 7s 6c Ts 2h]
Seat 1: D'wilius folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: rrope (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: TRM_SHRiMP (small blind) showed [6d 7d] and won ($11.66) with two pair, Sevens and Sixes
Seat 4: jaxter1970 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: WVUHillbilly folded on the Flop
Seat 6: zachvac mucked [4c 2s]

had TWO runner runner draws on that flop, turned a spade but couldn't river one. Is this just a cooler or did I make a mistake somewhere in this hand?

oh and villain is 40/15/2.5 btw over 80 hands.

Cooler IMO.

Glad I was there to witness it. You had to call. Pot odds.

WVHillbilly said:

Cooler IMO.

Glad I was there to witness it. You had to call. Pot odds.

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well yeah, but did I play it well preflop? You think I should have just shoved pre to get value when I knew I had the best hand instead of making a standard 3-bet? Any idiots who actually think I should have folded this preflop?

Philthy coldcalled that reraise? He had you pegged on unders the whole way.

Dont get this wrong Zach cause if seen your graph and even read your blog a couple of times and know your a good ring player but this hand is terrible.
What´s the deal? Am i missing something?

zachvac said:

zachvac: raises $1.45 to $3.25
TRM_SHRiMP: raises $1.45 to $4.70
...Mistake here. I couldnt get my touch pad to cooperate and bet max. Timer was activated and only had a second to decided or I wouldve folded. Was looking to shove here.

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Fun hand, but very disappointed with what you had. Especially the way the hand played out and our previous encounters, I actually thought might've had at least a decent draw of sorts or a piece of that flop.

Even though I won the hand, I was heart broken. I thought today was the day I outplay the great ZachVac, but it wasnt...

zachvac said:

oh and villain is 40/15/2.5 btw over 80 hands.

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I never know what these mean....

sindri_93 said:

Dont get this wrong Zach cause if seen your graph and even read your blog a couple of times and know your a good ring player but this hand is terrible.
What´s the deal? Am i missing something?

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Failed bluff. He knew I had been giving him way too much credit for hands.

sindri_93 said:

Dont get this wrong Zach cause if seen your graph and even read your blog a couple of times and know your a good ring player but this hand is terrible.
What´s the deal? Am i missing something?

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Let's see. Zach knew this was UTG's last hand and that he was probably raising with some crap like JQ Sooooooted, so his original 3 bet was a pure soul read. What he failed to account for was the presents of more than 1 donk at the table and the fact the Philthy had just passed soul reading 101 a few moments earlier and had also put on his soul cloak 2 hands before this one.

All completely standard at these high limits!

standard, hand basically played itself, ul

Re-raised twice with 2/4os...uhh

Stealing pots are fun but come on, 2/4os? Why get yourself in trouble with this hand and keep re-raising? I don't get it at all, this is standard play at higher limits? After he raised from $1.40 to $4.70 there was no way he was going to fold, you must of wanted a showdown with your 2/4os. Hell, even if he was weak, what were you expecting? 2/3os?

unlucky imo.

you have two backdoor draws and he only has one made hand, thus making you a 2-1 favourite to win. not your fault that villain is a suckout monkey imo.

Obviously this is meta play. zach is trying to establish a maniac image that he will capitalize on once he goes back to his usual stakes.

I have tryed that same thing before and all it left me with is an image of me having a few less dollars.

D'wilius said:

Philthy coldcalled that reraise? He had you pegged on unders the whole way.

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Well in all seriousness it wasn't a horrible call considering that we were deep (didn't realize before that the max buy-in was actually 250 BBs, and both of us have more than that). If he hits a hand like he does he's hoping to get a stack out of it, and with all the callers...

sindri_93 said:

Dont get this wrong Zach cause if seen your graph and even read your blog a couple of times and know your a good ring player but this hand is terrible.
What´s the deal? Am i missing something?

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No you're not missing anything, it's a horrible play that I would never had made without being at a table with CC players at those lower limits and the history of 24o. I'll go into that in a second.

philthy said:

Fun hand, but very disappointed with what you had. Especially the way the hand played out and our previous encounters, I actually thought might've had at least a decent draw of sorts or a piece of that flop.

Even though I won the hand, I was heart broken. I thought today was the day I outplay the great ZachVac

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Well first of all we had just been talking about 24o and how I'd gotten it 3 times, once I got a walk and the other 2 I open folded it to the BB's AK. So we're literally talking about this as the cards come out and I see ... 24o. So I decide to try to steal it. 3-bet is called by 3 others. Now usually in multi-way pots (especially 3-bet preflop) people are more willing to fold their marginal hands (for good reason) so I fired out a cbet. Then Philthy comes over the top with just a little bit more than a min-raise. I'm thinking that screams "I have AK-AJ" and come over the top to represent a bigger hand than just TPTK, although thinking about the preflop action, the only hand that would make sense in that scenario would be AA. Not sure if I could have gotten you off AK or not with that raise, but I wasn't getting you off 2 pair.

Then came the really horrible part, after you re-raised if you remember I said something to the effect of "well I have 2 runner runner draws, do I have odds to call here?" as a joke before I was going to fold. But I was tired, it was the last hand, and Philthy said something to the effect of "call, I won't complain if you hit". So I was like "what the hell, it's only a little over another buck". I apologize if this thinking is offensive to people who do regularly play at these limits, but as most of you know I'm used to a little bit higher limits and although I was able to play well (although extremely lag) earlier, I had a hard time taking that extra 2 bucks seriously when I was playing 24o in the first place.

TWiTCHaH said:

Re-raised twice with 2/4os...uhh

Stealing pots are fun but come on, 2/4os? Why get yourself in trouble with this hand and keep re-raising? I don't get it at all, this is standard play at higher limits? After he raised from $1.40 to $4.70 there was no way he was going to fold, you must of wanted a showdown with your 2/4os. Hell, even if he was weak, what were you expecting? 2/3os?

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Well it was the last hand, and I had just finished talking about 24o. This is NOT standard play at any limits from a good player (plenty of donks who make plays not much better than this one, which is why online poker is still profitable).

Dorkus Malorkus said:

unlucky imo.

you have two backdoor draws and he only has one made hand, thus making you a 2-1 favourite to win. not your fault that villain is a suckout monkey imo.

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The funniest thing to me is what had to be going through jaxter and rrope's heads when they see this play. Both were just randomly at the table so, like a few reading this thread, they had to think we were a bunch of total donks.

You had to chase that runner-runner draw to the worst possible flush. There's just no way around it.

The Internet is a rigged super-user! My girlfriend (who goes to another school, so you don't know her) told me so!

Standard cooler. Donkey calls your 3bet with a 6 7, then hits a weak hand on the flop but still wins. You got your money in with the best of it can't do much better than that. I might have min raised preflop though to try to trap more players into calling, then you can bust them on the flop.

Oh man... I just looked up my 4/2o stats and I'm bleeding money with that hand. They almost all appear to be folded blinds. Weird.

I need to plug that leak.

dude, fold pf.

edit: sorry, thought you had 76o soooted, standard cooler.

zachvac said:

No you're not missing anything, it's a horrible play that I would never had made without being at a table with CC players at those lower limits and the history of 24o. I'll go into that in a second.

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I just read the HH again and ofcourse you have to make that move against Philthy(maniac?).....

what was that flop betting about? open shove that flop imo

switch0723 said:

what was that flop betting about? open shove that flop imo

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No way! He'd have chased everyone off and won a small pot.
You have to milk a beauty like that.

Yep standard cooler...absolutely nothing you can do when you flop a mega draw like that yet still somehow manage to miss.

SavagePenguin said:

No way! He'd have chased everyone off and won a small pot.
You have to milk a beauty like that.

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nooooooooo because all in bet looks like a bluff so will be called by 3 high etc etc