Are You Afraid of Bad Beats?

TrpeLoco · Feb 28, 2018

I'm afraid to play with KK at 888poker because I lose 80% of the played hands

Amanda A · Feb 28, 2018

I would never fold AA or KK pre flop but I get bad beats all the time. Just played in a tourney on ACR and got close to the money I had AK and hit my A, got all in against AQ after flop, and Q comes on the river. Happens a little too often, I'm starting to think the site has got it in for me.

arrgggy · Feb 28, 2018

Its poker) bad beats will happen . just have to play strong hands and watch how the other players at the table play.

reggie_g · Feb 28, 2018

no, you should not be afraid of bad beats always maximize value of your hand dont be afraid of chasers and luckboxes

DiegoRamos · Mar 1, 2018

jospel said:
Luck is not my point in that statement. It's about thinking positively vs thinking negatively to predict a positive outcome. Learn to interpret what you read sir.

Sorry, but wanting something in a game is not counting on luck?

DiegoRamos · Mar 1, 2018

TrpeLoco said:
I'm afraid to play with KK at 888poker because I lose 80% of the played hands

Review your moves, you may be overcharging

DiegoRamos · Mar 1, 2018

Amanda A said:
I would never fold AA or KK pre flop but I get bad beats all the time. Just played in a tourney on ACR and got close to the money I had AK and hit my A, got all in against AQ after flop, and Q comes on the river. Happens a little too often, I'm starting to think the site has got it in for me.

Bad Beat is normal. It just can not shake us.

maykmar · Mar 1, 2018

Never fear, if that's not raging anger, losing to letters that had no hope of winning, but then passed jjajaj

AKbadboyAK · Mar 1, 2018

DiegoRamos said:
I see that there are still many beginning players are afraid to pay an all in with KK or AA for being afraid of losing with these hands.
This should never happen, regardless of how many players are all in.
Math is on your side, and for you who are starting now and still do not know, Poker is math and analysis of people, nothing more.

Remember, even in FT, bubble or the first leg of a high roller tournament, you never drop AA or KK. If you have any doubts, watch the recent hand between Tom Dwan, Antonio Esfandiari and Daniel Negreanu. It perfectly illustrates what must be done.

True friend does not have to be afraid I particularly I will always bet all my chips without fear of falling because most of the time will always win then we will play forward with all good luck aggression.

finaltable1 · Mar 1, 2018

DiegoRamos said:
I see that there are still many beginning players are afraid to pay an all in with KK or AA for being afraid of losing with these hands.
This should never happen, regardless of how many players are all in.
Math is on your side, and for you who are starting now and still do not know, Poker is math and analysis of people, nothing more.

Remember, even in FT, bubble or the first leg of a high roller tournament, you never drop AA or KK. If you have any doubts, watch the recent hand between Tom Dwan, Antonio Esfandiari and Daniel Negreanu. It perfectly illustrates what must be done.

Never say never.
At first - don't compare TV shows with situatuions you are participating in.
TV stars are paid to play, they already won their money in past and what they actually do - they're artists, and their main goal is to make you want to play poker and they are showing you how to play it. The second question is where is the truth. For them - being well paid for that TV poker session and with a high bankroll behind it doesn't matter what hand to play and how to play it. If i was sitting there, being paid for the game and taking the game process as a freeroll i would lie to the world in my every move. Because millions of my possible opponents are watching and studying my game style.

In second. If you're at the final table, 2 people go all infront of you and you have AA. Just think about it. If you don't know your cards and your opponents cards, the chances to win in a 3 way pot are 33.33%, and these chances are not good for you. You might say that "I've got a best preflop hand" - yeah, But actually you've got 1 pair so far and thats the fact.

In 3rd. If these 2 players go all in, and you've got AA - check the payout ladder. One of them goes out = you get +10% cash. One of them goes short stacked = you get weaker opponent.

and finally. After hundreds or thousands of final tables i can say that most of the winnings come from the timer, not from the monster hands. If you've got a nice stack, let the others play and eleminate each other, this way you'll climb up the money ladder by just sitting and waiting.

Few times in my life i've come to the final table short stacked and ended up playing HU vs 5-25 times bigger stack, ending up winning the 1st place. But the HU started only because of the timer, because i was folding AK, JJ and such, and let the other players eleminate each other with JJ vs 88 allins.

Please never say never, and keep in mind that you don't need AA to win the 1st place, you only need chip and chair. AA is just a pair, AK is just a speculative monster hand. And there is a difference between gambler and winner.

pescaofish · Mar 1, 2018

My Friend, I am not scare of bad Beats, since they happen more often than I will like, so I am aware of that probability and just need to be used to them as long as is part of Poker playing! :fight:

NoPlace4U · Mar 1, 2018

Not really afraid but its always in my mind, PS is notorious for having many bad beats.

jospel · Mar 2, 2018

It's called the self fulfilling prophecy, if you think you can or you can't do something your probably right. It has nothing to do with luck at all. Wish for what you want, not for what you don't want, think positive.

Ero2407 · Mar 2, 2018

The fact is that during freerolls you will always lose with an AA or KK hand to a players with any garbage hand if they had10 times more chips,but there worked special computer program whose goal is to quickly reduce the number of players

DiegoRamos · Mar 2, 2018

finaltable1 said:
Never say never.
At first - don't compare TV shows with situatuions you are participating in.
TV stars are paid to play, they already won their money in past and what they actually do - they're artists, and their main goal is to make you want to play poker and they are showing you how to play it. The second question is where is the truth. For them - being well paid for that TV poker session and with a high bankroll behind it doesn't matter what hand to play and how to play it. If i was sitting there, being paid for the game and taking the game process as a freeroll i would lie to the world in my every move. Because millions of my possible opponents are watching and studying my game style.

In second. If you're at the final table, 2 people go all infront of you and you have AA. Just think about it. If you don't know your cards and your opponents cards, the chances to win in a 3 way pot are 33.33%, and these chances are not good for you. You might say that "I've got a best preflop hand" - yeah, But actually you've got 1 pair so far and thats the fact.

In 3rd. If these 2 players go all in, and you've got AA - check the payout ladder. One of them goes out = you get +10% cash. One of them goes short stacked = you get weaker opponent.

and finally. After hundreds or thousands of final tables i can say that most of the winnings come from the timer, not from the monster hands. If you've got a nice stack, let the others play and eleminate each other, this way you'll climb up the money ladder by just sitting and waiting.

Few times in my life i've come to the final table short stacked and ended up playing HU vs 5-25 times bigger stack, ending up winning the 1st place. But the HU started only because of the timer, because i was folding AK, JJ and such, and let the other players eleminate each other with JJ vs 88 allins.

Please never say never, and keep in mind that you don't need AA to win the 1st place, you only need chip and chair. AA is just a pair, AK is just a speculative monster hand. And there is a difference between gambler and winner.

Honestly I stopped reading when you said that you will have 33.3% when you are with AA against two all ins.
I do not know what mathematics you use, but against a random range you will have a 74% chance of winning in this situation.

Second, it is a specific situation, go behind the measured hand. See what happened in that situation and what was the reading. Do not try to impose erroneous thoughts without a minimum of logic. :icon_puke

DiegoRamos · Mar 2, 2018

NoPlace4U said:
Not really afraid but its always in my mind, PS is notorious for having many bad beats.

Never blame the room, review your game and find your answer.

DiegoRamos · Mar 2, 2018

jospel said:
It's called the self fulfilling prophecy, if you think you can or you can't do something your probably right. It has nothing to do with luck at all. Wish for what you want, not for what you don't want, think positive.

:top:

DiegoRamos · Mar 2, 2018

Ero2407 said:
The fact is that during freerolls you will always lose with an AA or KK hand to a players with any garbage hand if they had10 times more chips,but there worked special computer program whose goal is to quickly reduce the number of players

Bad beat happens on all levels of play, not just in Freeroll.
Do not be deceived.

finaltable1 · Mar 2, 2018

DiegoRamos said:
Honestly I stopped reading when you said that you will have 33.3% when you are with AA against two all ins.
I do not know what mathematics you use, but against a random range you will have a 74% chance of winning in this situation.

Second, it is a specific situation, go behind the measured hand. See what happened in that situation and what was the reading. Do not try to impose erroneous thoughts without a minimum of logic. :icon_puke

Your mistake is that you're using the lower math system, I was talking about dominating one. What if you have AA, but you don't know that you have it? You just have 2 cards... You've got 2 cards and 2 opponents. Ok let's see one example. At roulette you can bet on red or black and it will be close to 50/50 right? Or you can cover 35 numbers and think your chances are higher, but investment\payout ration is less, right? But at the end of the day, when you're walking out of casino, you've got 2 choices: Winner or Loser. That's the result. If the result has 2 choices than you're having 50\50 chances, the deeper you go into details = the deeper calculations can start. You can start calculating seconds wasted to make decisions, the number of sweat appeared on opponents skin - it's up to you Neo, it's all your Matrix. But at the end of the day you exit Casino being in plus or in minus. I hope it's clear.

Let me explain my point of view little deeper. Have you ever played live poker with friends or at casino? If so, Have you ever played poker without looking at your cards? You've got 2 cards dealt by the dealer, don't look at what you've got. Is it against your logic? Ok don't read if you don't need the information, be there, where you are if there is no need to evolve. If you want to evolve - spent some time playing without looking at your cards, Do blind bets\calls and so on. Concentrate on the dominating part of the game, major maths and major psychology. When you'll put your nose out of the hole where it is at the moment, this way you'll learn something about your opponents and about the game. (No off, just kidding)

Ofc there is tons of info on sites like pokerstratigy and this forum, millions of articles, thousands of TV shows where so called "pros" are playing and you see the % of winning. However this is just a circus, where actors act to make you think that you understand the game, to steal your lifetime, cause time is the single important coin in this world. And if you're using your time to earn money on your job, then you deposit money to online poker - what does it mean? It means that TV show or pokersite worked. You've paid them a piece of your lifetime activity. Will you win or lose - it doesn't matter, you've paid your coin, that's what matters. If you will win - great, anyway they keep the rake, if you will lose - well, use your next salary bro, one day they'll send you a bonus offer that you won't be able to resist.

The best thing you can do is called in an ancient language. these 2 words are "Sapere Aude" - you can google for the meaning. And when you think about it, you have just 3 options in poker 1) be a loser 2) be a gambler 3) be a winner.
I won't say how to be a winner, i know it, but i won't say it. it's all simple. Sapere Aude.

Nuts4U · Mar 3, 2018

If you are a serious player and play high stakes, then Bad Beats can financially cripple you

VivicvrMga · Mar 3, 2018

I'm not afraid to play with AA or KK. what scares me is AK and unfortunately QQ since I lost several tournaments with them. In general AK I abandon.

DiegoRamos · Mar 5, 2018

finaltable1 said:
Your mistake is that you're using the lower math system, I was talking about dominating one. What if you have AA, but you don't know that you have it? You just have 2 cards... You've got 2 cards and 2 opponents. Ok let's see one example. At roulette you can bet on red or black and it will be close to 50/50 right? Or you can cover 35 numbers and think your chances are higher, but investment\payout ration is less, right? But at the end of the day, when you're walking out of casino, you've got 2 choices: Winner or Loser. That's the result. If the result has 2 choices than you're having 50\50 chances, the deeper you go into details = the deeper calculations can start. You can start calculating seconds wasted to make decisions, the number of sweat appeared on opponents skin - it's up to you Neo, it's all your Matrix. But at the end of the day you exit Casino being in plus or in minus. I hope it's clear.

Let me explain my point of view little deeper. Have you ever played live poker with friends or at casino? If so, Have you ever played poker without looking at your cards? You've got 2 cards dealt by the dealer, don't look at what you've got. Is it against your logic? Ok don't read if you don't need the information, be there, where you are if there is no need to evolve. If you want to evolve - spent some time playing without looking at your cards, Do blind bets\calls and so on. Concentrate on the dominating part of the game, major maths and major psychology. When you'll put your nose out of the hole where it is at the moment, this way you'll learn something about your opponents and about the game. (No off, just kidding)

Ofc there is tons of info on sites like pokerstratigy and this forum, millions of articles, thousands of TV shows where so called "pros" are playing and you see the % of winning. However this is just a circus, where actors act to make you think that you understand the game, to steal your lifetime, cause time is the single important coin in this world. And if you're using your time to earn money on your job, then you deposit money to online poker - what does it mean? It means that TV show or pokersite worked. You've paid them a piece of your lifetime activity. Will you win or lose - it doesn't matter, you've paid your coin, that's what matters. If you will win - great, anyway they keep the rake, if you will lose - well, use your next salary bro, one day they'll send you a bonus offer that you won't be able to resist.

The best thing you can do is called in an ancient language. these 2 words are "Sapere Aude" - you can google for the meaning. And when you think about it, you have just 3 options in poker 1) be a loser 2) be a gambler 3) be a winner.
I won't say how to be a winner, i know it, but i won't say it. it's all simple. Sapere Aude.

This time you got over it. I stopped reading in the first sentence.
From what I see you have never read a book if you want poker, you do not know the math of the game. So I do not have to comment any more.

DiegoRamos · Mar 5, 2018

Nuts4U said:
If you are a serious player and play high stakes, then Bad Beats can financially cripple you

Yes, if your psychological is weak this will greatly affect your game.
I see several analyzes of Pro's saying that when HU players in High Stakes when then in downswing are the ones who have the most financial losses. Because it is part of the training to explore and analyze these people.

DiegoRamos · Mar 5, 2018

VivicvrMga said:
I'm not afraid to play with AA or KK. what scares me is AK and unfortunately QQ since I lost several tournaments with them. In general AK I abandon.

I had many losses with QQ year, but I went to analyze and I identified that the problem was in the size of the bet. I adjusted and went back to the blue.
Already AK just do not overrate, be cautious.

finaltable1 · Mar 5, 2018

DiegoRamos said:
This time you got over it. I stopped reading in the first sentence.
From what I see you have never read a book if you want poker, you do not know the math of the game. So I do not have to comment any more.

Well, you're from brasil, it explains everything. Seen the Olympics, heard about education, favellas and i def. love brasilain players at the tables.
No need to comment, just show how good you are by showing the world some of your recent games? Here is one of my recent games:

https://www.starswinningmoments.com...160_77s3vdh6ayuc4h9tx6h1_video.mp4&tid=126448

It's so nice to hear actually that people in Brasil can read books and choose which one they want to read... it's so great to know that you have a choice! I'll be praying for you and your choice. But keep in mind, that there are the good ones and the bad ones, also the alphabet book, the tiny book and the green one, the coca growth book and fawella survival book, the kill amazon forest book and the book with no sense! Hope that you'll be reading more of the right books in the future. Good luck at the Carnival my book loving friend. :2in1:

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