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anthony c

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Hi there

I would like to know you to beat Zoom games on pokerstars. I thought i was beating this game, 2nl but things changes.

Any tips how to play zoom poker?? Guess i don't really know how to play Zoom poker. I am almost broke and need advice before i have no money left.

PLEASE help.

Thanks in advance
 
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I prefer cash game the zoom has lot of varience.
 
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Yeah, go back to regular NL2 and grind enough money to try NL2 zoom again. Should be easy after zoom =)
 
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Zoom is higher variance so if you run short of money you will begin to play scared. You will call instead of raising and fold instead of calling only because you are short on cash. You need to be able to embrace and at least accept the higher variance to play zoom and you simply cannot do that with a small amount of money. Go back to 2nl cash as already recommended and also mix in as many free rolls as you can to see if you can win some extra cash to add to your bankroll. Take a deep breath. Do not panic.
 
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Just play like regular poker. Every times your opponents plays different cause "it´s zoom" he´s making a mistake you could profit off.
 
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Zoom is a different animal to cash,I find cash a lot more profitable if you can stick it out. Least that is the case for me as I tend to think people are stealing a lot more in zoom and I have never quite adjusted to playing it.
 
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Sure, there is high variance in zoom but if you play a nice tight game, you'll win more than you lose.
You have to remember, most zoom players play zoom because they have no patience to wait for good cards so most play zoom and only play strong cards.
 
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Sure, there is high variance in zoom but if you play a nice tight game, you'll win more than you lose.
You have to remember, most zoom players play zoom because they have no patience to wait for good cards so most play zoom and only play strong cards.

I agree, in fact that's the reason why i dont like zoom. You'll get strong hands more frequently but so are other people, and you are not able to read the other players because they're always changing.

So, my recomendation is that if your don't feel confortable at zoom because your not able to adapt then just stay away from it and go back to cash games.
 
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I dont know what to tell you actually. zoom is like cash, the varience on micro is often due to unhealthy leading/calling. just like in reg cash prf raise > check >check-raise indicates a monster it so does in zoom.
just maybe tighten up?
if in cash op might call you for 3 streets with pair of A witha bad kicker, in zoom it might not be good enought
 
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i think so

if you doubt that playing a lot ay zoom variable is important to have a good bench to take the indicated strong hand and play it is very good to make money
 
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I would play regular cash games because you have more control over the game than zoom. I can also fully utilize the data i get from LeakBuster in cash game than zoom.
 
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if you play zoom hands over and over you will see that most people that are grinding on it are same, so you should wait for each hand to be over and than leaving the table to get most information about the hand and taking notes. most people would try aggressive strategy to take down pots, so if you have history with them, you are most likely to go in profit on this game because others would not think about being staking on the hands.
 
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play far has a lot of variance. you do not know what your opponent has and how he likes to play
 
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dont play with scared money

keep learning the game

post hands on forum and join group discussions.
 
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Pretty much why zoom is risky...

exactly, you can not study your opponent and most opponents will of all in. It's like playing bingo hahaha. But I like to play MTT than cash game
 
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play far has a lot of variance. you do not know what your opponent has and how he likes to play

This is true for the big pool zooms such as 2nl and 5nl

but when you go up to small stakes and people 4 table zoom you will run into them quite a lot and you can work out how people play.

at micros new players join all the time even on the reg tables so you generally wont know them right away.
 
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Poker Zoom has more variance, so keep it in mind before call with bad hands. I can give these advices:
1) Use position to put the villain into pressure.
2) Explore the re-raise resource with strong pairs and AKs and some AQs.
3) Don´t create/invent too many moves , bluffing in horrible boards.
 
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To beat nl2 enough to play on the map.
 
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This is true for the big pool zooms such as 2nl and 5nl

but when you go up to small stakes and people 4 table zoom you will run into them quite a lot and you can work out how people play.

at micros new players join all the time even on the reg tables so you generally wont know them right away.

what drew my attention to poker was my ability to observe people and it fascinates me. When you play with a pro or someone very well studied in poker, he can vary his game and make it difficult to read it. But always has some feature that can assist you after a few minutes playing with it which can help you and knows it better for then you apply your techniques in it and do well. It is not 100% guaranteed, but when u play a few times with the same opponent you gather information about it. Even in micros, or other smaller tournaments. I usually win big tournaments playing sit and go 50 cents. Tournament with 45 players and that gives you extract good results.
 
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Zoom is strange, also started playing for fun and when I saw was almost broken, so that I could get out in time ... you need to be good at hud and that there programs ... I am hard to see who is tight, who is loose who are opening all the time, who puts pressure ... so hud is essential.

I also believe that the variance will increase due to the number of hands played.
 
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losing sometimes helps to raise rates, but only if you get lucky there
 
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2NLz is harder than ring, but still super beatable.

Here were my 2NLz 6-Max RFI ranges (all 2.5-3x)
LJ - 87s+, KJo+,QJo+, Q10s+, 22+, A5s+
MP- 65s+, Q10o+, A9o+, J9s+, A2s+, 22+
BTN - 45s+, 109o+, 57s+, A2o+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, 109o+, 22+

3Bet Ranges - JJ+, AQs+, 67s,78s,A5s (I polarized my 3bet range to avoid tight players exploiting me by just folding too often)

My calling range is one notch tighter than my RFI range to protect myself since I never have JJ,QQ,AK,AQs in my calling range.

Facing a 3bet at 2NLz I was extremely tight because so few people in that pool polarize their 3bets. You can exploit that player pool by playing super tight vs 3bets. Folding AJo, JTs. In a tough game I'd never fold JTs to a good player's 3bet.


Post flop 2NL -

You can use all your OESDs as 3 barrell bluffs in conjunction with your nut hands.
You should use your weakest flush draws as bluffs as well.
Weak gutshots are OK to checkraise barrell with too.

I had a very low cbet% (38%) to exploit the noobs with 75+% cbets. So id cbet top pair+, and strong draws.

I check all other hands.


NEVER DONK BET.
 
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I have been grinding the 10nl zoom now for about 1 month and made 50 bucks into 1100 in this time. Just play ABC poker, notetaking is really important, alot of people will 3bet bluff in the blinds for example. Being able to lay down big hands is also huge. Once doubling up, leave table and start over. See cheap flops with small pocket pairs and suited connectors. Dont overplay marginal holdings. Having an overpair and being reraised/ check raised on all streets, often signals that ur beat.

Before your going to leave the table go through all hands and take notes on players. You are going to see the same player over and over again. So many people is saying you should play thight at zoom, but if this isnt working you should loosen up. Also you should go for alot of thin value bets, not many people will bet the river if not having a really good hand in a big pot, so be aware.
 
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