Shady Slim
Legend
Silver Level
Well, in freerolls you will see a lot more of this type of thing. If you are buying in, you hardly see it all -- except if the player is disconnected, or just wants to take a break.
The thing is unless the sitter is all-in, what is the harm? It speeds up the table play, it is easy chips if in BB/SB, and the odds are still the same whether they are sitting or not. If they are sitting, your odds are improved.
Same rules apply in live games too. I have yet to hear anybody whine about it when sitting at the table. Most of the time they just wait to steal their blinds.
Shady Slim
Legend
Silver Level
Yeah. There are some people that are unaware and check bet into them right down to the river. I just make a note of those people and smile.
jerlasvegas
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I wish to know why sitters in games continue to get cards? After two rounds or so, they should be eliminated, JMHO - the cards are messed up 9f we don't see the betting.
Venting!! Especially in Freerolls!!
Sippy
I see this very often on wsop/888.nj. Occasionally there are 6 or 7 sitting out. It turns it into a heads up game sometimes. It can get frustrating depending on the situation.
I see it as just another part of the game and another side quest strategy type situation.
I haven't been playing very long, but I do know that without a doubt, you can never blame your results based on someone else's actions or play style. The only option is learning their play strategy and exploiting it. That's my take on it anyway.
Once or twice, I've been at a table with 8 sitting out. I just wished it moved from hand to hand quicker haha!! Raise, raise, raise, raise, raise...
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aj1300
Rock Star
Silver Level
Players sitting out can be a double-edged sword. On one hand, it's great if you can take the blinds. On the other hand, it does skew the play at the table.
And, if you are not in a favorable position relative to the players who are sitting out, it can be more difficult to take the blinds.
And, if you are not in a favorable position relative to the players who are sitting out, it can be more difficult to take the blinds.
Shady Slim
Legend
Silver Level
Yep, being out of position gives an advantage to the people ahead of you. Today, I had three sitters to my left. But, I had some aggressive people behind me too. My advantage in this case was not very profitable in the long run.
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vic75
Legend
Silver Level
All poker sites should take out the sit outs after five-ten minutes of play.
Larry Robbins
Rock Star
Silver Level
Thank you for the responses
I do see this as a problem in tourneys - whether real or fake money is being played. There should be some rules if a player decides to sit. Return what chips they have after a period or distribute them among the table - or just not deal them cards and take the blinds - seems fair - they mess up the game on time and strategy - Would it not be best to know what cards or out vs. what are left in the deck? You never know a sitters cards. If they don't get cards then you know the odds. JMHO.
Sippy
I do see this as a problem in tourneys - whether real or fake money is being played. There should be some rules if a player decides to sit. Return what chips they have after a period or distribute them among the table - or just not deal them cards and take the blinds - seems fair - they mess up the game on time and strategy - Would it not be best to know what cards or out vs. what are left in the deck? You never know a sitters cards. If they don't get cards then you know the odds. JMHO.
Sippy
Shady Slim
Legend
Silver Level
Five sitting, Four playing?
Its just another factor. You are basically playing a JQ against 3 other players. In fact, I ran into the same situation on a $1000 GTD tonight and I had no problem with it. I was playing a wider range of cards than I normally did and made some good moves because of it.
You get the the message!! Stupid on all POKER sites. JMHO
Sippy
Its just another factor. You are basically playing a JQ against 3 other players. In fact, I ran into the same situation on a $1000 GTD tonight and I had no problem with it. I was playing a wider range of cards than I normally did and made some good moves because of it.
bablovod
stupid parody of the game
Platinum Level
if you're late, you go to the lobby, and you've already been excluded, what a happy face will be on your head? this is a very important opportunity to save space after the game starts. I know only one room that removes players 10 minutes after the start, it's not very nice.
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canabero
Legend
Bronze Level
i like the way pokerstars works whit it because it makes sitout lose all hands. but to make sitouts be eliminated after a couple of hands? i don't agree because some people can't be connected in some moments or some tournaments don't have lat reg.
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Pablo22
Legend
Bronze Level
Although it is annoying to you, it would not be fair to remove a player from the tournament after they have paid the entry fee. If there are 4 or 5 players sitting out at my table, I adjust my game to maximize this scenario.
Larry Robbins
Rock Star
Silver Level
Play $$ Games - Sitters - BOL
There could be some improvement in the free roll and Tourney on-line games. Maybe even in real games at WSOP. Enjoy some BOL free $$$ games - you will notice that the sitters cards are not dealt - after a time they are removed from the game - they do not lose chips.
I think this would be good for real $$$ games - a sitter gets no cards - a sitter is removed after a certain period - they may be given a token for participation (a pre- determine $$$ or maybe a few drinks at the POKER BAR) - their chips are distributed among the rest of the players - based on % of their chips - would reduce time and enhance real play.
Some other benefits - y'all could help with? Once we pay entry it is not our $$$ anymore - a loss - we must try and win it back with the rest of other player's entry - that is the poker game - nothing is spossed to be fair - you must play to win!!! - show and play or lose - why should a sitter mess up card odds? Deal them out for a certain time and if they don't show they forfeit!!! - they must pay each SB and BB!!
Just thoughts to improve the POKER game.
Sippy
There could be some improvement in the free roll and Tourney on-line games. Maybe even in real games at WSOP. Enjoy some BOL free $$$ games - you will notice that the sitters cards are not dealt - after a time they are removed from the game - they do not lose chips.
I think this would be good for real $$$ games - a sitter gets no cards - a sitter is removed after a certain period - they may be given a token for participation (a pre- determine $$$ or maybe a few drinks at the POKER BAR) - their chips are distributed among the rest of the players - based on % of their chips - would reduce time and enhance real play.
Some other benefits - y'all could help with? Once we pay entry it is not our $$$ anymore - a loss - we must try and win it back with the rest of other player's entry - that is the poker game - nothing is spossed to be fair - you must play to win!!! - show and play or lose - why should a sitter mess up card odds? Deal them out for a certain time and if they don't show they forfeit!!! - they must pay each SB and BB!!
Just thoughts to improve the POKER game.
Sippy
Shady Slim
Legend
Silver Level
This is not true. At BOL, sitters are dealt cards and they are never removed after any period o f time. In fact, I played in a tournament there last night with a field of 148 players and close to 95 of them never showed and sat for well over an hour until they blinded out. Most of the game it was like playing 4 or 5 player tables, which was interesting because the ranges of cards opened widely.
Zorba
27
Platinum Level
No they shouldn't, all players are entitled to sit out, just because some people don't like it why should that matter.
What if you were about to sit and play a tourney and the missus came home and said to you with a seductive look in her eye that she wants to show you her new lingerie, wouldn't you sit out for a while.
Also as has been mentioned would you like it if you got disconnected and when you got back online you discover that you were removed from the tourney.
It's more important to worry about the game instead of getting tilted by something out of your control like sitters.
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This is totally true ^^^
It's not just BOL, in the many many years that I have played online poker there was only one site that did that that I know of and that was Ultimate Bet.
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Shady Slim
Legend
Silver Level
At running events - you must come prepared - at swimming events - at GOLF events -etc.
Only in POKER can you sit.
JMHO - it is OK!!!
Check the play games for play $$$, Shady -TY.
Sippy
You can sit in a lot of games Sippy. Dominos, Bridge, Canasta, Checkers, Chess, Backgammon, etc. LOL
And no thank you. If I want to play poker with play chips I would play Zinga Poker on Facebook. Not sure why you are playing them, but hey that is your prerogative.
Wilfram
Enthusiast
Silver Level
In my eyes, sitters only become an issue when the majority of the table is doing so. 1-4 players sitting? Fine with me. I'll be more aggressive when they're in the BB, especially from late position. Now, when I'm at a 9max table and 6 guys are sitting? A little frustrating, but it doesn't happen often enough for me to be too upset about it. Plus, Cardschat has no way to control this themselves; its on the poker sites if they want to do anything about sitting, which I doubt they ever would. The sitters aren't breaking any rules by doing so. Just throwing away money!
Shady Slim
Legend
Silver Level
But not SIT-OUT - lol!!
Cheers!
Sippy
Sure, you can sit out in any of those games. The problem is, if you do, your opponents are gonna slap you up side the back of your head. In those games, sitting out is NOT an option. LOL