Originally Posted by SyKoChiller
Also FORBIDDEN on ALL OLP sites is the use of HUD's & Tracking Software! This is covered under the section(s) about using 3rd party software in conjunction with the poker clients.
LOL, this is so incredibly, ridiculously wrong. I'm literally rolling my eyes so hard they hurt.
The software they're talking about is illegal software that makes decisions for you.
ALL major poker sites
allow trackers/HUDs. Even Bovada, who has gone to great lengths to thwart some of the advantages of HUDs because they're used by winning players and Bovada doesn't want winning players running off their pit/sportsbook fish, doesn't prohibit them.
I'm guessing then that it would shock you to know that poker sites actually approach and pay trackers to support their sites?
That little nugget even surprised me when I learned it. The major trackers (PT and HM) have working partnerships or relationships with nearly all of the mainstream sites. Obviously you've never looked at PokerStars' list of approved 3rd party software.
It's actually quite long, and includes a lot more than the couple of trackers/HUDs you hear about every day (pardon the jumbled formatting due to cut & paste from their web site -- that's actually 3 software titles per line in the below quote).
- Can you give me some examples of acceptable tools and services ?
- The following are examples of tools and services which are permitted:
Auto HandPoster AutoReg BlazingStars^
Calculatem Pro Coach Rounder ColoringTool
DoN Indicator DonkeyTracker Draw Poker Source
EasySeatPoker EasySeatPro FlopZilla
FlopZoom^ FPP Pro Plus FreePokerDB (aka FPDB)
Gam Poker Analyzer GameTime+ Hold’em ****pit
Holdem Genius Holdem Helpem Holdem Indicator
Holdem Manager (including Table Scanner) Hold’em Manager 2 (including Hold’em Manager Sync) Holdem Partner
Hold’em Profiler (including Super HUD) Holdem Ranger (including RealTime HUD) HoldemLuck
Holy Grail of Poker iToldem KayTeEmPro’s Odds Calculator
KoySit LobbyHunter LongHUD
MacroPoker MagicHoldem NoteCaddy
NotesNL Official Poker Rankings Omaha Brain
Omaha Indicator Omaha Poker Coach OmahaChecker
OpenTool Perfect Reads PH_Stars†
PlaceMint PlayerGPS PlayerPeek
Poker Academy Prospector Poker Buddy Poker Butler
Poker Calculator Pro by PokerProLabs† Poker Copilot^ Poker EV
Poker Evolver Poker Indicator Poker Office
Poker Potjie Poker Pro Labs (including Super HUD) Poker Sharpener
Poker Shortcuts Poker Sleuth Poker Sniffer
Poker Stove Poker Vitals Poker Weapon
Poker Wingman PokerAce HUD PokerCoach†
PokerDebugger PokerEval (Registered Version Only) Pokerface
PokerGrapher PokerHands PokerObserver HUD
Poker-Spy PokerStat PokerStrategy Elephant
PokerStrategy Equilator PokerStrategy SideKick PokerStrategy Equilab
PokerTableStats PokerTracker (including TableTracker) Pot Odd Rechner
PPA Poker Calculator ProPokerTool's Odds Oracle PS Hand Value
PS Hand Watcher PS Last Hand PS Mate
PSxPoker Tracker and HUD RankExplorer Selektor
SharkScope (including SharkScope HUD) Sharktoolz Bankroll Manager Sharktoolz Poker-Reader
SharkyScanner Sharkystrator SitnGo Wizard (version 184.108.40.206 and newer) †
SmartBuddy SNG Solver (version 1.0.9 and newer) † StackAndTile
Slice Star Tracker StarsHelper
StoxPoker Combo Stud Indicator Table of Interest
Table Optimizer Table Shark TableDroid
TableNinja TableScan Turbo Telescope by SpadeIt
Texas Calculatem Texas Hold’em Hands v2.0 ThePokerDB
TiltBreaker TimeMojo Tournament Indicator
Tournament Shark Tournament Updater Tourney Manager
Universal Poker Table Organizer usunpokertools Winning Poker HUD
Hell, Carbon even offers their own HUD (http://www.carbonpoker.ag/poker-odds-calculator/video-tutorials.html?id=6), which is their custom-branded version of Hold'em Indicator. They actually spent probably not an inconsiderable amount of money licensing and customizing this to give away for free to their customers, because if you went out to by HI yourself it costs around $80 last I looked (and would be a poor investment compared to PT4 or HM2, but I digress).
And as if the above wasn't clearly enough evidence, as to your absurd comments about trackers/HUDs being "cheats" you're clearly yet another that's obviously highly ignorant of what these tools actually do. I'm really getting tired of addressing it, so I'm inclined to leave you to your ignorance, but I won't let these things go without comment because misinformation is a bad thing to be spreading on a site dedicated to helping people gain knowledge about all aspects of the game.