What would you do?

[Syltan]

Essentially depends on there is whether at the table aggressive players, can be and fold and all-in. To open with this hand from UTG is very optimestichnyy with stack of 11bb.

 

[PKRNRS]

11 BB I'm shoving with any two. It don't matter at that point. This is when "luck" needs to bail you out. Been in that spot before and it stinks. But truth is one missed played hand can break you or make you.

 

[EvertonGirl]

Here is the result:

PokerStars - 150/300 Ante 30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 16.13 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 13)
BB: 11.47 BB (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 2.44, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
UTG: 20.15 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (UTG+1): 11.17 BB
MP: 19.98 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 18)
MP+1: 13.99 BB (VPIP: 25.79, PFR: 16.45, 3Bet Preflop: 17.07, Hands: 159)
MP+2: 9.23 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 9.1 BB (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
BTN: 22.25 BB (VPIP: 39.62, PFR: 4.72, 3Bet Preflop: 15.15, Hands: 108)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has A<font color='red'>♥</font> 7<font color='red'>♥</font>

fold, Hero raises to 11.07 BB and is all-in, fold, MP+1 raises to 13.89 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 10.37 BB and is all-in

Flop: (35.2 BB, 3 players) 9<font color='red'>♦</font> 2<font color='red'>♦</font> T<font color='black'>♠</font>

Turn: (35.2 BB, 3 players) J<font color='red'>♥</font>

River: (35.2 BB, 3 players) 8<font color='black'>♣</font>

BB shows A<font color='red'>♦</font> K<font color='red'>♦</font> (High Card, Ace)

Main Pot [34.6 BB]: (Pre 23%, Flop 45%, Turn 33%)
Side Pot#1 [0.6 BB]: (Pre 29%, Flop 46%, Turn 33%)

MP+1 shows K<font color='red'>♥</font> K<font color='black'>♣</font> (One Pair, Kings)

Main Pot [34.6 BB]: (Pre 62%, Flop 52%, Turn 60%)
Side Pot#1 [0.6 BB]: (Pre 71%, Flop 54%, Turn 67%)

Hero shows A<font color='red'>♥</font> 7<font color='red'>♥</font> (Straight, Jack High)

Main Pot [34.6 BB]: (Pre 15%, Flop 3%, Turn 7%)

Hero wins 34.6 BB
MP+1 wins 0.6 BB


As you can see Ron knows me well

I was called a crazy donk when I cracked the kings, I replied, if you don't understand why I did what I did, I ain't gonna tell ya... He went quiet after that.

I don't believe shoving is wrong and I don't believe folding is wrong, but when there are antes involved I do think it's a tad nitty not to go for it, as I am going to be shorter in a few hands time and I might not get a stronger hand than A7s. Obviously if UTG had raised or limped, I would of folded. So before UTG had decided what to do, my plan was to shove if he folded and that's what I did

 

[Robochick]

I like your story and I was called a donk today for doing a similar thing when I was down to 5 BB. I am glad it worked out for you. Yay!

 

[Robochick]

Can I ask you a question?

Ask away....

(I would have been snarky and answered that he did just ask a question, did he want to ask another? ...but you were kind)

sooooo....snarky follow-up:
Did Dale expend his allotted questions by asking the first question?

 

[EvertonGirl]

2 screenies to follow.

First says fold as pokertracker doesn't add player images and the next said to push as I entered the players images.

When I first reviewed the hand and it said fold, I was thinking why do I keep making the wrong choice and then thought on hold on I have to tweak the player images and if it still says to fold then I will work on it, but as it shows me a push is the right choice, I was relieved

 

[EvertonGirl]

I like your story and I was called a donk today for doing a similar thing when I was down to 5 BB. I am glad it worked out for you. Yay!

5bb is definitely a shove Some people have no clue, and they are always quick to call you names. It's funny how it's always the bad players saying someone is a fish or a donk

 

[EvertonGirl]

(I would have been snarky and answered that he did just ask a question, did he want to ask another? ...but you were kind)

sooooo....snarky follow-up:
Did Dale expend his allotted questions by asking the first question?

I don't think he asked, either that or his post was deleted

 

[Robochick]

5bb is definitely a shove Some people have no clue, and they are always quick to call you names. It's funny how it's always the bad players saying someone is a fish or a donk

Worked out for me too and I made a flush....oooooh, they were mad!

 

[Robochick]

I don't think he asked, either that or his post was deleted

Maybe he said something cheeky and you would rather not hear it in the first place...we may never know.:bath:

 

[EvertonGirl]

Maybe he said something cheeky and you would rather not hear it in the first place...we may never know.:bath:

ooooh I sooooo want to know now!

 

[Robochick]

ooooh I sooooo want to know now!

We could be incredibly devilish and make it all up and pretend his posts were deleted...

I say we go do some crimes!

Robochick: "No Sarah, I can't....well okay, you convinced me against my will! Nooooo!"

Dawn, you will do what I command!

Robochick: "Well, okay then...if you say so."


See I can put words in your mouth!

 

[EvertonGirl]

No Dawn, you can read minds, that's so scaaarrry

 

[gabethegimp]

What's their post flop aggression like? To be fair the vpip isn't what I would call loose for those stakes.

With 10bb, a/x suited is a shove hand irrelevant of where you are. You could get nothing but rags after that. Shove and pray. At worst you'll bust, at best double/triple up. The latter two will put you in a fighting position again.

 

[EvertonGirl]

What's their post flop aggression like? To be fair the vpip isn't what I would call loose for those stakes.

With 10bb, a/x suited is a shove hand irrelevant of where you are. You could get nothing but rags after that. Shove and pray. At worst you'll bust, at best double/triple up. The latter two will put you in a fighting position again.

BTN: 22.25 BB (VPIP: 39.62, PFR: 4.72, 3Bet Preflop: 15.15, Hands: 108)
MP: 19.98 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 27.78, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 18)

BTN is nearly 40% into the pot that's very fishy stats he has there with his wipe gap between his VPIP and PRF, that's very loose, and a more accurate read with 108 hands,

and MP looks like a very loose player also, but with only have 18 hands he could of just been getting a lot of hands.

To me that is very loose, don't know about anyone else

 

[gabethegimp]

Was it a freeroll - looks like it curious?

 

[EvertonGirl]

Yea, it was the high school league.

 

[Jeremy Laninger]

I would shove all in.

 

[Tommyc9494]

I’d personally do the same as most either play all in or fold with 10 B.B. or under

 

[canabero]

fold A7 is not quite strong and the rest of players have not so many blinds. so it seems you'll have more oportunities to shove.

 

[andreii955]

Is good fold here, you don't have position, if you Take one pair on flop,is not so good because you have small kicker ,and shove for flush.. no, no shove. So is a great move fold... GL

 

[gabethegimp]

Yea, it was the high school league.

Makes a bit more sense. I play a wider range than most and I'm usually somewhere in the 30-40 range. I tighten up a fair bit in games that I have to put my own cash into. freerolls you got to expect a looser style of play from most.

 

[3betfish]

shove because from UTG+1, blinds are coming up to you. A7s probably the best hand youll get before the blinds hint. you will most likely get a crappy hand when youre BB and be committed. A7s blocks AA and other Ax combos as well. and your image at the table is also very important to consider.

just my 2 cents

 

[EvertonGirl]

Makes a bit more sense. I play a wider range than most and I'm usually somewhere in the 30-40 range. I tighten up a fair bit in games that I have to put my own cash into. Freerolls you got to expect a looser style of play from most.

I tighten up my game if the table is playing loose, and widen my range if table is playing tight.

I play the same if playing a freeroll or a BI.

 

[Pickat]

I would fold that hand in early position . Too many hands that would call you would also have you dominated . Wait for a better spot because at that stage you need to be willing to go all in on any hand you play .