Spin&Go's

[Pokerblitz]

So, I want to start a thread on the sit&go variant that pokerstars offers: The Spin & Go.

General details of this game type:
- You start of with 500 chips (25 Big Blinds)
- Speed is hyper turbo (blinds increase every 3 mins)
- 3 handed play
- price draw sets the price pool ranging from 2-1000 times the buy-in at the start.

I play break-even after playing about 200 of them. Also, I find these games more tilting than regular sit&go's. (although I'm able to play regular sit&go's profitably)
The break even part might come from the price structure, you get a price pool of 2 times your buy-in about 90% of the time.
The tilting part might come from the hyper structure and the fast play, where suckouts and bad beats are followed up quicker compared to regular sit&go's or tournaments.
(also the tilting influences the profitability ass well off course)

Please share your thoughts on spin& go's! :icon_boun

 

[ChipWinged]

Spin & Go is too much tilting. I agree. So, you have a luck because you have break-even after 200 games. I think you should have big distance for profit. (200 is very small).
Spin & Go is more gambling. Every game you think about Jackpot but often it's double buy-in. Once I read post about Spin & Go with phrase: "It it doubles buy-in only why you doen't play in SnG heads-up?" I am sure it's NOT wrong. Just add about SnG DoN. Game is more prolong but you have more ability for double.
For me Spin & Go is random's destroyer Bad beats are its best friends. Last Spin n Go I was eliminated after hand K2o (stack - 2BB) against hand...A2o (it's not bad beat but...why?). And I saw hand: my 43 with board 567xx and opponent's hand 89. It's so strange. But fun. And gambling.
Summarizing my opinions, I think it's harder to have profit than cash (you can but cash is simpler). So just for fun it's perfect for me Good luck! Maybe you'll catch x10000 multiplier and win this game!

 

[Pokerblitz]

For me Spin & Go is random's destroyer Bad beats are its best friends.
Summarizing my opinions, I think it's harder to have profit than cash (you can but cash is simpler). So just for fun it's perfect for me Good luck! Maybe you'll catch x10000 multiplier and win this game!

Well, although my feeling (which objectively doesn't count) also says bad beats seem to be more common here, this can't be right. A bigger sample size is something that can clear things up, with expected EV shove stats included. Remind me that I will post stats here in the future.

Maybe the thing that makes these Sit&Go's profitable is indeed hitting the jackpot, which is a bit silly of course. (to play for the jackpot I mean)

 

[Tatomircg]

So, I want to start a thread on the sit&go variant that Pokerstars offers: The Spin & Go.

General details of this game type:
- You start of with 500 chips (25 Big Blinds)
- Speed is hyper turbo (blinds increase every 3 mins)
- 3 handed play
- price draw sets the price pool ranging from 2-1000 times the buy-in at the start.

I play break-even after playing about 200 of them. Also, I find these games more tilting than regular sit&go's. (although I'm able to play regular sit&go's profitably)
The break even part might come from the price structure, you get a price pool of 2 times your buy-in about 90% of the time.
The tilting part might come from the hyper structure and the fast play, where suckouts and bad beats are followed up quicker compared to regular sit&go's or tournaments.
(also the tilting influences the profitability ass well off course)

Please share your thoughts on spin& go's! :icon_boun

i dont have anything to say about them...who likes them shoyuld play them

 

[crisco609]

I'm definitely in the profit overall for these spin-n-go type games, however if I gave a number I'd just be making one up as I haven't kept track. Could make an interesting thread doing a 50x challenge like that. I do agree about them being tilting to some extent, but I also think with the right techniques they have potential to be profitable. I've manage to pull out a few 5+ game win streaks my highest being 10games. I've gotten some decent spins to, but nothing close to the jackpot, a couple 10x bonus though.

 

[ChipWinged]

Well, although my feeling (which objectively doesn't count) also says bad beats seem to be more common here, this can't be right. A bigger sample size is something that can clear things up, with expected EV shove stats included. Remind me that I will post stats here in the future.

Maybe the thing that makes these Sit&Go's profitable is indeed hitting the jackpot, which is a bit silly of course. (to play for the jackpot I mean)

Of course, so I wrote about distance. Nice! It will be interesting to see your stats

Actually, you can play break-even even after 10 thousands games and Jackpot is your profit only. If it is, it's sad because Jackpot may not to be.

You could hear story on PokerStars.ES when man was playing spin n go and streaming it. And he got Jackpot €300000. Yeah, he won that game (too much screaming was on the stream ). But in interview he said that he played spin n go 40000 games.
Look: Jackpot is x10000 so his buy-in was €30.
€30 x 40000 games = €1200000 buy-ins. Why do I tell about it? Probably you'll get jackpot after using money which totoa count is more than Jackpot. And if you didn't win before it you can be without profit even after jackpot.
So be attention while playing spin n go

 

[MatMackenz]

Of course, so I wrote about distance. Nice! It will be interesting to see your stats

Actually, you can play break-even even after 10 thousands games and Jackpot is your profit only. If it is, it's sad because Jackpot may not to be.

You could hear story on PokerStars.ES when man was playing spin n go and streaming it. And he got Jackpot €300000. Yeah, he won that game (too much screaming was on the stream ). But in interview he said that he played spin n go 40000 games.
Look: Jackpot is x10000 so his buy-in was €30.
€30 x 40000 games = €1200000 buy-ins. Why do I tell about it? Probably you'll get jackpot after using money which totoa count is more than Jackpot. And if you didn't win before it you can be without profit even after jackpot.
So be attention while playing spin n go

Im sure this jackpot would have made up for many many losses for this streamer. He must be somewhat a good player and most likely better them breakeven if he is playing a lot of volume at the $30 level.

I am very interested in the spin and go style of game. I find it very fun and fast paced. I play at the $0.25 or $1 level and have been playing just slightly above breakeven but have not hit any big spins. My biggest spin that I have won has been a 6$ but I have only play play around 200 games so far.

 

[ChipWinged]

Im sure this jackpot would have made up for many many losses for this streamer. He must be somewhat a good player and most likely better them breakeven if he is playing a lot of volume at the $30 level.

I am very interested in the spin and go style of game. I find it very fun and fast paced. I play at the $0.25 or $1 level and have been playing just slightly above breakeven but have not hit any big spins. My biggest spin that I have won has been a 6$ but I have only play play around 200 games so far.

What's about your strategy? Did you read any posts about optimal playing? I saw several hands' tables with actions: call, raise, push, fold. I think it can be helpful on distance only.
My worst mistake was fear for buy-in. I earned bankroll on freerolls only and sometimes only I have 0.25$+. So I have only one buy-in for spin n go.
When I start game I think: "If you'll lose you'll begin start over" And then there is tight game and not-agressive-loose, fold when push was needed and etc.
I suppose, success is pretty simple - don't afraid to lose! Spin n go is like lottery, like slot. You can't win always even with 70% of probability. So I spam this word in this thread - distance. But it's right. Your optimal game will be profitable after 1000+ games or even 10000+.

 

[22meandu]

Hate them . Mostly because they have killed the Sit&go pools . I find most nights i have a spare hour and used to enjoy the 45 player $7 . One went off every 10/20 mins . Now they dont exist. This is PS where since Casino Spins & Max have taken all the quick time games . I dont like games that luck plays such a huge part .

 

[Bozovicdj]

So, I want to start a thread on the sit&go variant that Pokerstars offers: The Spin & Go.

General details of this game type:
- You start of with 500 chips (25 Big Blinds)
- Speed is hyper turbo (blinds increase every 3 mins)
- 3 handed play
- price draw sets the price pool ranging from 2-1000 times the buy-in at the start.

I play break-even after playing about 200 of them. Also, I find these games more tilting than regular sit&go's. (although I'm able to play regular sit&go's profitably)
The break even part might come from the price structure, you get a price pool of 2 times your buy-in about 90% of the time.
The tilting part might come from the hyper structure and the fast play, where suckouts and bad beats are followed up quicker compared to regular sit&go's or tournaments.
(also the tilting influences the profitability ass well off course)

Please share your thoughts on spin& go's! :icon_boun

The game is too fast, and hard to get a hold of. In general you want to be aggressive with almost any Ax, all pocket pairs, and almost all Kx. There was an article on CC specifically about this game type, and you should check it out:
https://www.cardschat.com/spin-and-go-strategy.php
This article is mostly correct, however it doesn't say that luck is a huge part of this game. It does say that this game type is unbeatable, which is why pros don't play it. Therefore, My best advice would be not to play it at all, or at least play exclusively to have fun, not as a way of earning money!

In 0,25 and 1$ buy in, you will see all sorts of plays, donk bets, pointless shoves, slowplays, literally everything.
However already on 3$ and 7$, also on those 2,75$ and 5,5$ that are usually satellites for big tournaments. The game is more poker-like, people are playing less wide, you will see less crazy shoves and races in general.
That being said, the same thing applies for 6max hyper SnGs. Specifically, if you have enough cash, try the 5$ knockout hyper 6-max, which is good fun, but it can also get you a lot of cash.
Basically, if you win, with all the bounties, you are bound to get somewhere between 15 and 20$ and I can tell you, if you are able to win in Spin & Go, you will be able to win this Spin & Go as well.

Best of luck at the tables!

 

[Vorem]

The most dispersions type of poker. Very much depends on luck, the bankroll must be much larger than usual for MTT. Very little postflop play, a few minutes after the start, the game goes into push-fold
I do not like these games

 

[Soulguard]

spin and goes are more gambling I have played them alot, I played .25c like 500 in 3days there was like 90% x2 rewards, some x4, and x6, and only 2 x10, so the tilting part is the reward system, and knowing that pokerstars makes so much money from them. I do hit good reward system on max holde'm which is on the end u choose randomly from 3 posible rewards the 1$ ones, and is randomly with opponents. its like every 100 there will be one big one with biggest prize going around 40$ or something like that, even last time I played I sat on table with even highest: 5$, 110$, 340$. which had cashout 140$, finished 2nd for 82$ cash, its more fun for me that ordinary sit goes

 

[Pokerblitz]

Could make an interesting thread doing a 50x challenge like that.

A challenge like that does sound fun indeed!

Of course, so I wrote about distance. Nice! It will be interesting to see your stats

I guess by distance you mean volume? Long term profit?
I will post my stats once I have Holdem manager up and running again, but it won't be for a while. I will save the history in the meantime

Hate them . Mostly because they have killed the Sit&go pools .

Yes, this is the sad truth. Well, I think the new generation of players like fast action (like society itself is more fast paced these days), but hyper variants of the game take players from the general (normal structure) games. Like zoom does for the cash game tables and also you see Pokerstars having a ot of 15, 30, 45 minute timed tourney's . I think these kind mmt's/ sit&go's hijack away the more gambler like players that you can win from when they are playing normal timed tournaments and get impatient.

I guess, for spin&go this means you end up against these gambler type players more, which make the game more swingie, since they less often fold a bad hand and get lucky where a better player can fold.

The game is too fast, and hard to get a hold of. In general you want to be aggressive with almost any Ax, all pocket pairs, and almost all Kx. There was an article on CC specifically about this game type, and you should check it out:
https://www.cardschat.com/spin-and-go-strategy.php

Thanks for the strategy page, I will check it out! I'm new to the forum and didn't discover it yet!

 

[Ryan Laplante]

Takes many thousands of games to play enough games to consistently hit your edge.

They are veey soft though.

High variance = High risk but very soft

 

[notdario]

spion and go

the spin and go, I love them, has a very fast game, and being cautious enough and ligando that you touch good hands. You will have many more victories than defeats. I with a spin of $ 3 dollars, earn 300.

 

[notdario]

itd great, i recomended

 

[ashley8276]

spin and goes

I like playing in these sitn gos it gives me a chance to win some money

 

[Mateusss0617]

I am always depositing the minimum of 10 dollars and i am going well with 1 dollar spin and goes but when i hit my stack like to 30 or higher i start to play 3 dollars than 5 and its like if i even lose a lot of in row i can not just play again with 1 dollar spin and goes couse i am getting used to the higher ones :O

 

[Ant467]

I heard a lot about this type of game, but I do not like the hyper-turbo tournaments due to lack of time to resolve to make a sensible move. And these tournaments for amateurs

 

[pancho_1954]

I suppose the spin and go are fine if you do not have a lot of time to play, but I do not know if they are as profitable as a sng, of course you can have a bit of luck and the random prize is great, but how often does that happen to you? I guess he has his pro's and cons

 

[Pokerblitz]

I must be honest, after reading the strategy page on spin&go's on this forum (https://www.cardschat.com/spin-and-go-strategy.php) I wasn't really happy about playing them anymore. Because it confirms the variance and the hard to play them profitable...

In the end I'm making the most money playing normal mtt's or sit&go's. The faster the structure, the higher the variance and chances of not making a profit. Sounds logical.

 

[w0oferr]

I mainly use them for the boost(chests). The variance is too big, you need a lot of luck

 

[Fantomas2000]

Spin and Go is like lottery, push and pray strategy. Very impulsive game.

 

[mariale_1990]

I think we all have a strong side in poker, for some the sng, other mtt, and if for you they work very well spin ang, continue with them, and more if you think you can get good profits with them

 

[hugh blair]

Spin n go sweat story today trying to double then quit.
lost 3d then 7d then 15d then 30d then 60 then on 4th 100d spin
Spun a 6x $600 and finally won phew.

Quitting for awhile with relief $85 plus for the day.