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Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $250/$500 ($60 ante) - 7 players
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coconutso (UTG): $3,680.00 (7 bb)
slywon3 (MP): $13,585.00 (27 bb)
Yazadzhi (MP+1): $4,370.00 (9 bb)
bbkingsol (CO): $11,812.00 (24 bb)
ChaserCheetahh (BU): $10,132.00 (20 bb)
Pokeronga (SB): $14,128.00 (28 bb)
pokergoon555 (BB): $19,175.00 (38 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1,170) Hero (Pokeronga) is SB with K A
5 players fold, Pokeronga (SB) raises to $1,210, pokergoon555 (BB) calls $710

Flop: ($2,840) 5 2 K (2 players)
Pokeronga (SB) checks, pokergoon555 (BB) checks

Turn: ($2,840) K (2 players)
Pokeronga (SB) bets $1,420, pokergoon555 (BB) raises to $17,905 (all-in), Pokeronga (SB) calls $11,438 (all-in)

River: ($28,556) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $28,556 (Rake: $0)

Showdown:
pokergoon555 (BB) mucks 9 K (a full house, Kings full of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 24%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 14%, River: 100%)

Pokeronga (SB) mucks K A (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 76%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 86%, River: 0%)

pokergoon555 (BB) wins $28,556
 
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Should I have gone allin preflop with AK from SB?
 
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I definitely wouldn't go all-in pre-flop. As the second biggest stack at the table why risk your tournament against the biggest stack when you only have A-high? Depending on my read on the BB I might open a little larger if I thought I could win the pot there. With no read I don't mind your raise size. On the flop I'm definitely c-betting, to get value from any pairs or Ks lower than mine and to drive out any diamond flush draws. About half the pot seems right.
If villain called I would bet somewhere between 2/3ds of and the size of the pot.
If villain called again I would have a tough decision on the river, seeing the 3 spades and considering villain's play so far I might check and go from there or might raise all-in and lose all my chips! Would depend again on my read of villain.
 
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Just plain unlucky river - that happens and there nothing really you can
do about it. Just keep playing good poker :D

Should you push preflop?
That would not be a bad move to prevent you from playing A high
out of position against the table bigstack on the bubble :cool:
 
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Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $250/$500 ($60 ante) - 7 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

coconutso (UTG): $3,680.00 (7 bb)
slywon3 (MP): $13,585.00 (27 bb)
Yazadzhi (MP+1): $4,370.00 (9 bb)
bbkingsol (CO): $11,812.00 (24 bb)
ChaserCheetahh (BU): $10,132.00 (20 bb)
Pokeronga (SB): $14,128.00 (28 bb)
pokergoon555 (BB): $19,175.00 (38 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1,170) Hero (Pokeronga) is SB with K A
5 players fold, Pokeronga (SB) raises to $1,210, pokergoon555 (BB) calls $710

Flop: ($2,840) 5 2 K (2 players)
Pokeronga (SB) checks, pokergoon555 (BB) checks

Turn: ($2,840) K (2 players)
Pokeronga (SB) bets $1,420, pokergoon555 (BB) raises to $17,905 (all-in), Pokeronga (SB) calls $11,438 (all-in)

River: ($28,556) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $28,556 (Rake: $0)

Showdown:
pokergoon555 (BB) mucks 9 K (a full house, Kings full of Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 24%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 14%, River: 100%)

Pokeronga (SB) mucks K A (three of a kind, Kings)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 76%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 86%, River: 0%)

pokergoon555 (BB) wins $28,556

I think you wouldn't have plaied this game. You plaied with the biggest stack on the table and if you had a little biet wait you were sure not to make the buble (just before the paied place your stack meant to much money to make it on anger with only AK
 
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It would make little sense to go all-in when you've reached the bubble with a big stack. You're gambling finishing out of the money for what? The chips you would have picked up when the BB folded were of little value.

Your approach was just fine but please note....you displayed a cautious approach pre-flop with 2.5 BB bet. You continued with a the cautionary approach by checking. And, when the 2nd king arrives you value bet for about half the pot. Now the BB lays down the hammer and you throw caution to the winds. So what can we take from this hand? You were the pre-flop aggressor and you followed up on the turn so what on earth could the BB have in order to go all in?

I'm thinking you checked on the flop thinking you were trapping your opponent and after his big bet you figured he saw weakness in your post flop check and decided to bluff. You should have thought more about what your opponent could have. His pre-flop range would have included small pairs so he could easily have had a set on the flop and a full house on the turn. And, of course, he could have had a king. So the true question is could you have gotten away from your hand with a fold on the turn? And the answer is why would your opponent throw away a massive chip lead approaching the money on a mere bluff. He bet as if he felt he had the nuts and that should have set off warning bells.
 
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Should I have gone allin preflop with AK from SB?
It depends on your goal in an MTT. Is it to just make the money? Sure, shove and hope they fold. Or just fold and play it safe.

If the goal is to win the MTT, then play it for value and try to extract as many chips as you can from your opponent. You had a ton of equity on the turn and just got unlucky, but that's going to happen.
 
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Some players really under value AK preflop.
 
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Im not scolding you here, but AK is a drawing hand and you arent going to get your value playing that OOP. At that point in the MTT you are looking at going all in there and getting called by something like AQ or even K9!! and then doubling up to have something for the final table, or you could get sent home...

But here is a rule you should note, if you are willing to go all in on the river in a hand the way you did, you should shove PF instead, gain your fold equity, and when the 9 doesnt show up on the river you double up since he was stupid enough to call...
 
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sorry, I meant to say if you are willing to go all in on the flop or turn, not the river,
then you should be shoving.
 
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I think you did correct, just an unlucky river!
 
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This is exactly why I like overbetting when I plan on playing, no matter my cards. Hate bad beats like this... Players with significantly weaker cards getting there on the river nonetheless... and always when u have an almost unbeatable hand. Those are always the rough ones to lose
 
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