- Jun 29, 2019
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What about all in in the river with the nuts? I always carried myself into v-bets rather than shoving, I get over 75% calls, but while watching others play, they always all in nuts. Is it profitable to shove to protect bluff/ nuts range or unadvised especially against calling stations?Thank you for posting.
1 knockouts = money
2 Grinding chips late stage PKO when payouts are bigger than KO's
Never- Winning hands.
Tournament poker is about winning pots- it is better to lose hands trying to get stacks than to win hands and not get sucked out on. So getting AA cracked when your V semi bluff shoves turn and hits the river is a good thing if you induced it. Instead of over shoving the turn to protect type of plays. Equity denial is a real thing but that is board texture + villain hand reading determined- not fear of loss shoves or big bets on a good board for us looking for folds.
I know it may not feel like it but they do not hit every time you induce (I hope)
Hope this helps
What about all in in the river with the nuts? I always carried myself into v-bets rather than shoving, I get over 75% calls, but while watching others play, they always all in nuts. Is it profitable to shove to protect bluff/ nuts range or unadvised especially against calling stations?
Great advice, thanks a lot for your input. However I am afraid not gètting paid off, I will try it and answer you after a couple k handsThank you for responding
River bet sizing is dependent on call frequency of villains and size of bets. It is a math consideration.
Simple example is this----
River the pot is 30bb 100% of the time our villains will call a 10bb bet so we win 10bb all the time
20% of the time our V will call a 100bb shove on the river- we win 100bb every five times
So comparing the two results we see that we will win 100bb every five shoves- four folds one call but would only win 50bb every 5 times we bet 10bb . So we shove every nut hand on the river as it makes us a 2-1 profit.
This is just the simple beginning as to why to shove nut hands on rivers.
We also will be shoving bluffs as well in the right spots.
GTO sims also shove nut rivers because they are playing other GTO sims and call frequencies are correct for this play to be +EV. Some players only think of one side of a GTO equation when using GTO strategies versus non GTO humans- so you may see it being over used.
If however on your tables your villains are calling more often than minimum defense frequencies this standard GTO bet becomes a great exploit. Which may be the reason for the shoves in the PKO's you are playing as we win not just chips but bounties when called to often.
When expecting an all in with a hand OOP, simply limp and suck am in, others will open their ranges, which is an exploit in my dictionary.I try to maintain a healthy stack and if possible cover some of my opponents just in case. I am not the guy who gambles with any two cards for a KO.
But there are spots you should gamble with wider ranges like when we are in later positions and a tiny stack is all in with a nice bounty. It is essential part of the game to go for some bounties but I don't overdo it.
This is my approach for now I don't know if it is super nitty or no.