Nexus6
Rock Star
Silver Level
It is not just you - I think we all started in that place lol. I remember when I felt the same.
It also takes skill to beat the lucky dumb guys.
And I bet some of the people you think are lucky dumb guys are really regs who are using their edge on you and others. Unless you are only playing micro stakes. The problem with the skill it takes to beat them is that most of us don't possess the necessary skill - which is why they are tougher. And everyone gets lucky in sng's - you, me, the regs, the fish. Don't worry about trying to beat the luck - just accept that it exists for everyone and focus on other things instead. If you are sitting at tables with mostly good players then you will have plenty of that to worry about.
Ok so I understand that if your not that skilled you should be looking for non reg's.. Like you do Dakota even though you are much better than when you used to think like the person you replied to above. Ok so we know you have some skill , Now I watched an interview with Sam Farha and he was saying, "As an experienced player I prefer to play against good players because i know where I am at with them. But a unexperienced player you have to play your hand and sometimes its hard to tell where the unexperienced player is at. I think thats what the 2 people you been replying to on this thread are thinking. Yes these 2 people are not Sam's level but you seem to say you have some skills so I thought I would mention what Sam Farha says about playing skilled (reg's) versus unexperienced players..
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Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
Sammy doesn't play online - and he is talking about playing people he knows very very well and has played a lot. He doesn't play sng's either.
That is not what we are discussing here. We are talking about playing regs vs fish in online sng's.
(Oh and I am not that good either lol)
That is not what we are discussing here. We are talking about playing regs vs fish in online sng's.
(Oh and I am not that good either lol)
Nexus6
Rock Star
Silver Level
I was just using Sammy's thinking based on how the op thought about playing experienced players vs non experienced (the foundation of his thought about playing an experienced player) I thought may come from the same thinking of Sammy on playing experienced vs unexperienced players regardless of the game just the root of the thought from the OP.
Some people want to get better instead of looking for the easy players and making more money. For instance people that play live and are good but just started online and want to get good at online poker.
I loved when Tom Dwan said Yeah I could stay at lower levels and win all day and make lots of money but thats not why I'm playing . I want to beat the best !
Oh , speaking of sizing up people For all the posts you have helping people I suspect your not that bad..
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kincy
Rising Star
Silver Level
Well, when you are a beginning poker player you should always try to improve you game and try to beat the fish, cause you want to make money right?
When are at a point of your poker career where you can say "ok I can make a steady income out of poker" then you can choose to play some more against regs. But that's only my opinion about this of course.
When are at a point of your poker career where you can say "ok I can make a steady income out of poker" then you can choose to play some more against regs. But that's only my opinion about this of course.
nc_royals
Visionary
Silver Level
Playing against good quality competition has its place and will help improve your game. But dont you evenutally need to move from those games to the games where you have an advantage. Take what you learned from the Regs and use it against the wearker players.
I do know this in almost ALL sports or games the better player generally wins more than the weaker ones. So does it not make common sense to be looking for weaker competition. To be swapping money with a bunch of regulars might help your ego... but Id rather help my BR.
I do know this in almost ALL sports or games the better player generally wins more than the weaker ones. So does it not make common sense to be looking for weaker competition. To be swapping money with a bunch of regulars might help your ego... but Id rather help my BR.
Nexus6
Rock Star
Silver Level
Yeah sure . I use my advantage in home games around where I live all the time.
Online from what cardschat members say you need to play thousands of hands to see how good or bad your doing. I just don't play that many and the small amount I do play It just seems a high % of the times on showdown both players hit the flop .. That just my experience. So I don't take online poker to seriously and only use freeroll money never deposited. So from another thread on here recently cardschat member seem to be describing that I am gambling lol....
chelooo
Rock Star
Silver Level
I think regular tournaments are more competitive, because for me turbo is fun at first, always little bit faster lol; but then you always need some time in poker and blinds rising as high as they do in turbo, sometimes you can't have that time, and you loose. I think turbo is good to play but sometimes not all the time.
Bwammo
DragTheBar Coach
Silver Level
To the OP:
As other people have mentioned, there are good players in all games at all levels. As the buyin increases the talent level tends to increase...turbo or non turbo doesn't really have THAT much of a general difference. It's especially difficult to determine which will have more regs when there are so many different kinds of sngs...like between 9 and 180 players.
Bottom line, if you're more skilled at postflop play, you should usually find yourself on a regular speed game so you can take advantage of every edge possible. If your opponents are near or above your level of postflop play, turbo is probably the better route because there are less decisions to make (which in turn allows for less mistakes per game).
I FULLY support playing against more talented players to try and improve your own game...but only if you plan on playing against talented players on a regular basis. There's no reason to learn how to play against the best at your level if you're not going to be playing against them all the time.
That being said, isn't it equally, if not more, important to learn how to beat bad players to the best of your ability? If you are targeting talented players, you might not be aware of the MASSIVE leaks the worse players have and miss value here and there.
As other people have mentioned, there are good players in all games at all levels. As the buyin increases the talent level tends to increase...turbo or non turbo doesn't really have THAT much of a general difference. It's especially difficult to determine which will have more regs when there are so many different kinds of sngs...like between 9 and 180 players.
Bottom line, if you're more skilled at postflop play, you should usually find yourself on a regular speed game so you can take advantage of every edge possible. If your opponents are near or above your level of postflop play, turbo is probably the better route because there are less decisions to make (which in turn allows for less mistakes per game).
I FULLY support playing against more talented players to try and improve your own game...but only if you plan on playing against talented players on a regular basis. There's no reason to learn how to play against the best at your level if you're not going to be playing against them all the time.
That being said, isn't it equally, if not more, important to learn how to beat bad players to the best of your ability? If you are targeting talented players, you might not be aware of the MASSIVE leaks the worse players have and miss value here and there.
Nexus6
Rock Star
Silver Level
I learned how to play 1/2 live at many casino's in los angeles so what that means is I learned how to play against bad players as I learned how to play with good players all at the same time. Now that I play higher limits where their is still a mix of good and bad players. I prefer to sit with the good players. Good players don't mean their nits only. It's hard to explain it but I feel like I jump on to a track that is right in my speed limit (my comfort zone) . Anyway we shouldn't be talking about this way of thinking to much because it doesn;t help the situation that the OP is talking about concerning sit n go's. Just wanted OP and a few others on this thread to know how I think about the root of the idea (my personal comfort zone) on playing experienced players vs non experienced.