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RamdeeBen
Legend
Silver Level
I'm guessing it's because he's a sad/lonely individual with nothing better to do on a day to day basis and makes him feel slightly better about himself.
I'm guessing it's because he's a sad/lonely individual with nothing better to do on a day to day basis and makes him feel slightly better about himself.
fletchdad
Jammin................
Loyaler
He has had some hints from Mods about post content and he seems to have little respect for the general quality level of this forum, as well as ignoring the mods.
He must just not like it here......
TylerN
Kool-Aid & Frozen Pizza
Silver Level
Poker Orifice
FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
MediaBLITZ
Legend
Silver Level
LOL - well I decided to avoid this thread over the weekend before posting. Wasn't expecting such a derailment 
Okay - hand one folding AK with two shoves - always has been a snap call for me. Just didn't like it this time. I know it was crazy and I even announced, "I'm the only guy in the this entire casino dumb enough to lay this down." But, sometimes you have to gamble. It does work both ways. I was less than 50% - chip leader - somebody was going to get either knocked out or crippled anyway - and I was pretty convinced I could outplay all but maybe one guy after the flop (the "other factors involved") - so I layed it down looking for heads up later. I got it against both of those guys and took one out with A9 vs A6 and the other with QJ vs Q9 (maybe they were expecting me to fold against their awesome mighty shoves?).
JJ - that was such an obvious lay down I cannot even tell you. Not to get into specifics, after his shove I engaged the guy in conversation, had him count his chips for me (which he did), he was a familiar opponent from other nights and no doubt he held a monster. I had to lay it down. Might have even laid QQ down based on my read (which I have never done), but I doubt it.
Now the overall theme of this. I was absolutely killing my local tourneys for almost 6 months straight after making a huge adjustment to my game (brought on by a rapidly dwindling bankroll). Tighten up with an emphasis on protecting my stack and survival.
When I started that my chart skyrocketed (again, for several months). Then shortly after BF (knowing live play was now my only real option) I focused more effort on study, reading, website training subscriptions, going to seminars, talking with Greg Raymer and Dennis Phillips, among others. My chart started going downhill and was less than half of my earning before that. Okay - variance is a bitch but I felt it was more. My wife pointed out it was ever since I went to "that damn seminar". That can't be it! There were other factors like no longer putting hours in online. I was learning more, applying it but it was getting thrown back in my face. After some searching and figuring out while staring at that damn chart I realized I was overplaying the field. I was getting too involved and had forgot the basic fundamentals - stay tight and protect your stack. I just recently got back to it Since then 7 of 9 final tables and 5 of 7 in the money. But here I go being results oriented. Yeah, yeah, yeah, short term - but I don't think it's all a coincidence. I am putting myself in position to be there at the end. Before I was just playing cards without regard to surviving.
Anyway, it was just a coincidence that 2 of my 3 AK laydowns happened in that week. I don't plan on making a habit of it. I know it was crazy to lay it down, but by god I have done worse shit and it was stuff that crippled me.
I will still play some "bust 'em hands" (in position) now and then to keep everyone off balance. I will have to remember who all saw me make that fold and expect some possible repurcussions in the future.
And to answer the question earlier - I finished second and no it was not any of the guys I faced. It was a guy who picked off the guy I folded JJ to. Only one of the guys I laid down to finished in the money.
Okay - hand one folding AK with two shoves - always has been a snap call for me. Just didn't like it this time. I know it was crazy and I even announced, "I'm the only guy in the this entire casino dumb enough to lay this down." But, sometimes you have to gamble. It does work both ways. I was less than 50% - chip leader - somebody was going to get either knocked out or crippled anyway - and I was pretty convinced I could outplay all but maybe one guy after the flop (the "other factors involved") - so I layed it down looking for heads up later. I got it against both of those guys and took one out with A9 vs A6 and the other with QJ vs Q9 (maybe they were expecting me to fold against their awesome mighty shoves?).
JJ - that was such an obvious lay down I cannot even tell you. Not to get into specifics, after his shove I engaged the guy in conversation, had him count his chips for me (which he did), he was a familiar opponent from other nights and no doubt he held a monster. I had to lay it down. Might have even laid QQ down based on my read (which I have never done), but I doubt it.
Now the overall theme of this. I was absolutely killing my local tourneys for almost 6 months straight after making a huge adjustment to my game (brought on by a rapidly dwindling bankroll). Tighten up with an emphasis on protecting my stack and survival.
When I started that my chart skyrocketed (again, for several months). Then shortly after BF (knowing live play was now my only real option) I focused more effort on study, reading, website training subscriptions, going to seminars, talking with Greg Raymer and Dennis Phillips, among others. My chart started going downhill and was less than half of my earning before that. Okay - variance is a bitch but I felt it was more. My wife pointed out it was ever since I went to "that damn seminar". That can't be it! There were other factors like no longer putting hours in online. I was learning more, applying it but it was getting thrown back in my face. After some searching and figuring out while staring at that damn chart I realized I was overplaying the field. I was getting too involved and had forgot the basic fundamentals - stay tight and protect your stack. I just recently got back to it Since then 7 of 9 final tables and 5 of 7 in the money. But here I go being results oriented. Yeah, yeah, yeah, short term - but I don't think it's all a coincidence. I am putting myself in position to be there at the end. Before I was just playing cards without regard to surviving.
Anyway, it was just a coincidence that 2 of my 3 AK laydowns happened in that week. I don't plan on making a habit of it. I know it was crazy to lay it down, but by god I have done worse shit and it was stuff that crippled me.
I will still play some "bust 'em hands" (in position) now and then to keep everyone off balance. I will have to remember who all saw me make that fold and expect some possible repurcussions in the future.
And to answer the question earlier - I finished second and no it was not any of the guys I faced. It was a guy who picked off the guy I folded JJ to. Only one of the guys I laid down to finished in the money.
Samango
Legend
Silver Level
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kanselau
Rock Star
Silver Level
personally im on the same page after tightening up the screws quite abit i have noticed a great improvement in itm results , maybe its because of the field being so agressive these days and im playing oposite of what there doing? still very important to play the man , steal from the tight and come in with the best of it from the lags. oh yea balence is my favorite word nowLOL - well I decided to avoid this thread over the weekend before posting. Wasn't expecting such a derailment
Okay - hand one folding AK with two shoves - always has been a snap call for me. Just didn't like it this time. I know it was crazy and I even announced, "I'm the only guy in the this entire casino dumb enough to lay this down." But, sometimes you have to gamble. It does work both ways. I was less than 50% - chip leader - somebody was going to get either knocked out or crippled anyway - and I was pretty convinced I could outplay all but maybe one guy after the flop (the "other factors involved") - so I layed it down looking for heads up later. I got it against both of those guys and took one out with A9 vs A6 and the other with QJ vs Q9 (maybe they were expecting me to fold against their awesome mighty shoves?).
JJ - that was such an obvious lay down I cannot even tell you. Not to get into specifics, after his shove I engaged the guy in conversation, had him count his chips for me (which he did), he was a familiar opponent from other nights and no doubt he held a monster. I had to lay it down. Might have even laid QQ down based on my read (which I have never done), but I doubt it.
Now the overall theme of this. I was absolutely killing my local tourneys for almost 6 months straight after making a huge adjustment to my game (brought on by a rapidly dwindling bankroll). Tighten up with an emphasis on protecting my stack and survival.
When I started that my chart skyrocketed (again, for several months). Then shortly after BF (knowing live play was now my only real option) I focused more effort on study, reading, website training subscriptions, going to seminars, talking with Greg Raymer and Dennis Phillips, among others. My chart started going downhill and was less than half of my earning before that. Okay - variance is a bitch but I felt it was more. My wife pointed out it was ever since I went to "that damn seminar". That can't be it! There were other factors like no longer putting hours in online. I was learning more, applying it but it was getting thrown back in my face. After some searching and figuring out while staring at that damn chart I realized I was overplaying the field. I was getting too involved and had forgot the basic fundamentals - stay tight and protect your stack. I just recently got back to it Since then 7 of 9 final tables and 5 of 7 in the money. But here I go being results oriented. Yeah, yeah, yeah, short term - but I don't think it's all a coincidence. I am putting myself in position to be there at the end. Before I was just playing cards without regard to surviving.
Anyway, it was just a coincidence that 2 of my 3 AK laydowns happened in that week. I don't plan on making a habit of it. I know it was crazy to lay it down, but by god I have done worse shit and it was stuff that crippled me.
I will still play some "bust 'em hands" (in position) now and then to keep everyone off balance. I will have to remember who all saw me make that fold and expect some possible repurcussions in the future.
And to answer the question earlier - I finished second and no it was not any of the guys I faced. It was a guy who picked off the guy I folded JJ to. Only one of the guys I laid down to finished in the money.
MediaBLITZ
Legend
Silver Level
Aww well - he looked at his hand before I bet and I could tell he wanted to see a flop so it was an attempt to push him off his hand. I understand what you are saying. I definitely do not usually play JJ that heavy (usually like 3.5 BB).
I F'ed it up. Another leak - it gets around midnight, brain goes mushy and I do bad things man - bad things.
I got out because he had a major chip stack that would have hurt me badly. Again as chip leader I feel one of my priorities is protecting my stack - and YES - going 5x is not helpful to that end.
I am still learning.
BTW, got in hand with the same guy last night at final table. He shoved with me in SB holding 33 (he has me covered - barely).
His "tells' this time made it an easy call versus his KQ.
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dan abnormal
Legend
Platinum Level
Seems this guy is very disciplined and can read tables pretty well. Live final tables seem to have such a different dynamic since you see each other and plus you have many knockouts, railing and watching like you have a clue (this has affected my final table play as I feel I gotta look like I got it together when most times I dont and my play bares it out).
ID like to see his live play cause he folding AK confidentially but HE IS CHIP LEADER so the hands he is playing, he obviously has the read on everyone and just keeps collecting, where someone like me would dwell on all the chips I could of won if I didnt fold the AK and this dude is like F it, next hand please.
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ID like to see his live play cause he folding AK confidentially but HE IS CHIP LEADER so the hands he is playing, he obviously has the read on everyone and just keeps collecting, where someone like me would dwell on all the chips I could of won if I didnt fold the AK and this dude is like F it, next hand please.
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EvoFQ450
Enthusiast
Silver Level
+1. Definitely would not have shown the JJ. They will just rob you every time you raise from then on.