i personally believe cards come 98% of time
...What the hell does this even mean?
and really do not like shoving when behind. I mean you can play king ten limp in catch 10 7 4 and shove is just better odds to me if is a rainbow than me trying to catch a draw.
...What the hell does this even mean v2.0? Are you saying it's better odds for you if someone shoves in on a rainbow flop instead of shoving when they hit top pair/good kicker?
I also tend to wait on the draw might call did yesterday had 28 k chip stack blinds about 1k flop hit 2 4 10 had ace 5 hearts guy bet 3k a heart hit no pairs on board he bet 11 k I had major outs 6 people paid 40 some players left I was in top 11 people I called 3 hit so had the wheel and he went all in.
...Punctuations are your friends. With that said, you played that hand pretty bad and got lucky. This whole 'waiting on the draw' excuse is just a cover up for bad play. Assuming it was you 2 in the hand, there was 5K in the pot after the flop bet. You had to call 3K to win 5K and you're getting 1:6 odds on your money to try and hit the gutshot 3, which is 10:1 odds. Even if we want to give you 3 extra outs for the overcard, it's still 5:4 odds to hit.
On the turn, the flop is 8K and opponent bets 11K, meaning you have to call 11K to win a 19K pot, which is giving odds of 1:7 to hit. Even if you had 15 outs (flush draw, wheel, and overcard A), it's still a 1:9 to hit, so you aren't getting the correct odds to call.
Had a guy tell me was crazy for the original 3k bet call. Blinds were a grand lol. Was a turbo if was 20 people pay probably play a little tighter but went for it.
...Yeah, he's right. it was a bad call. And who cares what the blinds were? You were getting the wrong odds to call. You weren't even getting the correct implied odds to call. Also, in you're example, you played this poorly when it paid 6 places, but you say you'd play tighter if it paid out 20? How does that even make sense?
Is not something I do often though. I have the patience to wait for hands that are set or pockets etc.. I did finish 5th got a bad beat with pockets final hand.
...So, you don't make really bad plays often for 50% of your stack? That's good to hear, but don't make it so you're rewarding yourself for bad play when your hands do hit.
I also had similar thing as am saying twice was down to blind coming up when jj and 99 hit. I kept folding and waiting for the right time. I moneyed small money but moneyed both events by waiting for the pockets even though hit a desperate time.
Yet truly believe will get a good enough hand that at least have a shot if am patient. Not saying this is right for everyone just me I am not going to push with 8-2 cause am down stacked.
...playing too tight and waiting for big hands to come when your stack is low and blinds are high is very leaky. Yeah, you'll get lucky sometimes and min cash, but for the most part, you're losing a lot more than you're winning. Yes, patience is good to have and knowing when to pick your spots is also crucial, but you shouldn't always base your decisions on your cards dealt but on the situation you're in.
Last week I went to a final table played two hands and finished fourth. I was card dead and didnt deserve that finish at all lol. Yet usually for me this patience pays off.
So I wouldnt chase is up to you though are you lucky hitting etc..
...Don't rely on the luck of hitting, but instead determine if it's the right play for you to make. If you're playing based on luck and your decisions are made on things like "I feel the flush is coming", then you're not going to win in the long run. I would like to add that the OPs question of shoving with a nut flush draw is a far better play than the hand you played. In fact, you were the one chasing.
I tend not to push luck unless really hitting on rushes etc..