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dpolerio
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Scenario:
You are seated at the WSOP Main Event. Your own $$ (nobody staked you).
1st hand - you get AA
Guy across the table shoves all in.
Do you call?
Does your answer change if another player calls before it gets to you?
Fold and wait for a better hand,,,,
People think very simply, seeing AA, when they say this is an easy call...: (
This is a difficult fold! This is a very difficult fold....: ( I don't want to see a set from an opponent or a flush for him on the river (Suited cards).... This is a big and long tournament, so it's great to double up, but there is no need to do it in the first hour, you will have more, than one opportunity for this! To fly out with the strongest hand (on the preflop) in the first hand is a complete failure and it will remain in your head forever!
OK - you fold the rest of us are all calling and getting the triple up.
If this ultra passive point of view is how you play normally - please let me know which games you are playing - I want in.
There is no need to pull phrases out of the big picture. You inattentively read the author's message and inattentively studied and understood my answer.
Any player should understand when and where he participates and what he has done for this. If you are a millionaire and for you $5,000-$10,000 is dust and worth nothing, of course it is all-in without a doubt. But, when I pay ultra big money, I am fully aware of, what and how I can and should do.
Please reread and understand the full meaning of the author of the topic about, what he is asking. No need to transform this topic (question - answer) for online on micro-limit tournaments or freerolls!...
I am fully attentive to the original post and to your response. Not sure what you are mis-reading about my response. OP has his own money on the line - not staked, no backers in WSOP main event. Same answer as before from me - but you on the other hand are SCARED MONEY.
I'm directly saying if you are folding this hand - please tell me what games you play on a regular basis - because I want to play against you - if you are folding AA in OP scenario - you are playing as SCARED MONEY - which was your response to the original post - and you are VERY EXPLOITABLE.
In this situation you are scared to lose and would fold - and your second response only substantiates that fact.
Scared money = fold to much when facing a raise or re-raise because you do not have the figurative nuts and your opponent is representing a better hand - and you are scared to lose. Competent players and Pros will eat you for lunch if you play like this.
And even in this scenario where we DO have the preflop NUTS - you are still playing scared - and will fold. That is the exact definition of scared money. One of the things competent players look for - to exploit and take advantage of.
Do you fold the nut flush on the river when someone re-raises you when the board pairs? This is a rhetorical question You don't have to answer.
The author of the topic sets conditions and asks the opinions of different people on these conditions, what does the author's money have to do with it??? I answer from my own behalf, as the author of the topic wants!!!
I'm not afraid of money, I don't know where you got this information from (are you taking it out of thin air??))))
I answer you again: THERE IS NO NEED TO COMPARE THE MAIN EVENT OF THE WSOP (LIVE) and ONLINE GAMES AT MICRO AND MEDIUM LIMITS!!! do you not see the difference in these games or what?? Why do you draw parallels between tournaments for $5 or $10 and a WSOP that costs $5,000 or more..
50% of all online players will not be able to show anything in online poker without various online programs, that give them all the information for the game! And, when you say, that a person, who does not want to fly out in the first hand after paying a huge, fee is vulnerable, it's absolutely ridiculous....
If I was afraid of losing, I would never play online poker!
You name simple, but far from the most effective and necessary rules of the poker game Most professional players are no stronger, than ordinary players if they are put in the same conditions in online poker! As a result, you absolutely do not know me and saying anything about me and my game are empty words, that you cannot confirm in any way.... it's simple! Thanks for the dialogue!
Sorry if you are confused LFC, I am not comparing this hypothetical situation to any other lower buyin situation.
I understand - you say because this is such a big buy-in you might consider folding those AAs.
To me - I believe that is a passive, scared mentality, regardless of a persons financial situation.
If I got lucky enough to be in this situation - and I won this entry into this event with my very last dime. This is STILL a call 100%, every day of the week.
LFC - scared money is a description of a player that will choose a more conservative route in a situation (similar to this situation) because they are playing above their bankroll, or they are playing at higher stakes than they are comfortable with.
Scared money does not mean the player in the situation is scared of money. It essentially means they will make incorrect conservative decisions because they are scared to lose the money - or the opportunity they have in that particular situation.