I just can't seem to cash in tournament poker

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Hey Guys I just played 'The Hot [Turbo] $5.50 $10K' on PS, I satellited in for $1.90.

Just wondering if anyone could review and tell me if and where i went wrong on these hands. I went into the payouts with a pretty short stack compared to the majority, I kept trying to build my stack and steal blinds when I could but just couldn't get over the 20k mark against the deeper stacks.

http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/6922352

I was scared to play this hand as we were literally 1 person away from the payouts and the reraise scared me off my mid pair hand:
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/6922354

I decided not to call into 2 all ins with A10o as there was too many people left behind me to go:
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/6922353

This was the final hand of the tournement I was trying to steal the blind as I was down to like 3 big blinds:
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/6923028

I have uploaded these 3 hands as I believe these are the hands that cut my stack down whilst going into the bubble.

I ended up cashing for $12 and for a $1.90 satellite buy in that's not to bad but I feel with a few less mistakes I could of ran a lot deeper. I've had a few successes in cashing in these types of tournaments but I never seem to run deep enough to get a decent cash out.

https://gyazo.com/90c9293bf2104953c5952c653b709709
 
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I am no expert but here are my thoughts. I welcome some critique on my assessment as well!

The first hand posted ( not one of the ones with the video link ) I can not fault. You had a strong starting hand and less than 10 big blinds. You were first to act so I feel shoving is your best play there.

First video I would not have called the all in reraise. You already had a player make a raise in early position indicating strength and then a person decide to go over the top with an all-in. You are likely 3rd best at that point plus you still had a good number of players to act behind you. I personally would have folded.

2nd video I would have just folded. J6 is a weak hand and you have the three strongest stacks to act behind you.

3rd video - Is this the right video? I see KQ here.

4th video - I'm not inclined to try to steal when I have such a small stack compared to my opponent. Taking a chance to eliminate you from the tournament doesn't cost him much and leaves him in good standing even if he loses. I would have called and seen a flop.
 
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I am no expert but here are my thoughts. I welcome some critique on my assessment as well!

The first hand posted ( not one of the ones with the video link ) I can not fault. You had a strong starting hand and less than 10 big blinds. You were first to act so I feel shoving is your best play there.

First video I would not have called the all in reraise. You already had a player make a raise in early position indicating strength and then a person decide to go over the top with an all-in. You are likely 3rd best at that point plus you still had a good number of players to act behind you. I personally would have folded.

2nd video I would have just folded. J6 is a weak hand and you have the three strongest stacks to act behind you.

3rd video - Is this the right video? I see KQ here.

4th video - I'm not inclined to try to steal when I have such a small stack compared to my opponent. Taking a chance to eliminate you from the tournament doesn't cost him much and leaves him in good standing even if he loses. I would have called and seen a flop.

I think i mixed the AT and KQ hands round, yeah at the time playing J6 (for some reason) felt right I needed to steal some blinds but obviously this was the wrong position as the stacks behind me.

I feel like these decisions were made after loosing a fair % of my stack and I was tilted without realizing effecting my decisions.

Around 100 befre the bubble I was set up nicley with around 40k stack, took a bad beat with AKs and lost half my stack which led to me just giving out the rest of my stack!

You analysis is pretty spot on i reckon!
Any tips on how to keep in the mind set of playing solid poker after a bad beat at a crucial stage in a MTT?
 
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If you think that your are good enough to win, but your are not winning so change and as Stephenunited said play with small field of players
 
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If you think that your are good enough to win, but your are not winning so change and as Stephenunited said play with small field of players

Thanks, I've started playing MTT SNG today :)
 
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You don't always need to play with light sometimes you just need to add aggression. Don't be afraid that you could fail. Because the fold on a bad or average bluff this is also a mistake. Without them just neoboytis and that's fine.
 
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In my opinion playing one mtt at a time will get you nowhere. You invest a lot of time and you could end up playing 3 hours and not getting in the money. In most of the tourneys only around 13% gets paid. So that means that only one out of 7 or one out of 8 players get paid. So putting volume is necessary. If you are new to the game you should avoid turbos (and hyper turbos) and play regular speed deepstack games. Your aim should not be just getting itm because long term this will make you no profit. So truth is you must win a couple of flips too in order to make a deep run and make it to a final table and hit top 3. 180 sngs are full of regulars so you should avoid them. Late registration means less bbs and a stack that is below avg so I would not recommend it. GL
 
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As everyone has already pointed out, variance is huge in tournaments. Especially if you're playing microstakes on pokerstars. Those are pretty much donkfests.
 
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MTTs are great if your bankroll if built to handle the variance. However, I will echo what others have said in that large cashes are too few and far between to only play one MTT at a time. It would take a much longer time than necessary to build a larger bankroll. And lets face it, time is money.
 
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In looking at your hands posted, I think the biggest mistake was with the first hand posted holding AT in the cutoff. While AT can be a strong hand, flatting a 3 bet with AT is going to cost much more than it will win you, especially when the price was 40% of your stack and there are still 2 players left to act that have you covered including the opening raiser. If either of those players would have come over the top, you know you are behind, but have already committed nearly half your stack. You priced yourself in to call with a hand that is likely dominated. Luckily you only ran into a stack that was shorter than your own that had you dominated and only cost you 55% of your stack.

The other hand that I thought was poorly played was the attempt to steal the blinds with J6 from the cutoff. Their stacks were too large, and your raise too small for one of them not to see a flop. It is too easy to get put in an awkward position if they call and you do actually hit the flop, which is exactly what happened.

Laying down KQ in middle position is the right call.

The final hand was also best folded. I don't necessarily think it was poorly played, but the BB had a massive chip stack and was priced in with basically any 2 cards. It was a gamble. There would have hopefully been better spots to pick until the button came back around.

It sounds like you are doing a lot of things correct . But keep trying to minimize your mistakes and you will get even further.
 
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Maybe it's you just played a few and that you just didn't get enough chance to cash
 
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:)

Maybe it's you just played a few and that you just didn't get enough chance to cash
 
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Thanks guys I hopefully have enough information to cut out any silly mistakes and take down some final tables!
 
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Moe, the most importante this week is playing well the double trouble. lol. Good luck buddy!!!
 
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Do you guys think much of STT?

If you haven't played any STTs yet, I strongly recommend giving them a try. I prefer STTs over MTTs and cash games any day. You will make the money with greater frequency as 33% of the field cashes which eliminates most of the variance you encounter by only playing MTTs. If you prefer Turbos they finish in less than an hour giving you the opportunity to play multiple STTs during a session compared to the time required to play a single MTT. Play both 6 and 9 max to figure out which you prefer. The important thing with STTs is to make sure you cash consistently.

Once you figure out a STT strategy, you realize it doesn't differ all that much from freezeout MTTs. Most players are tight early and become more loose as the game progresses, and then tighten up again at the bubble.

Feel free to continue to play MTTs as you chase down a bigger payday. But to me STTs have always been my bread and butter when it comes to bankroll building.
 
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If you haven't played any STTs yet, I strongly recommend giving them a try. I prefer STTs over MTTs and cash games any day. You will make the money with greater frequency as 33% of the field cashes which eliminates most of the variance you encounter by only playing MTTs. If you prefer Turbos they finish in less than an hour giving you the opportunity to play multiple STTs during a session compared to the time required to play a single MTT. Play both 6 and 9 max to figure out which you prefer. The important thing with STTs is to make sure you cash consistently.

Once you figure out a STT strategy, you realize it doesn't differ all that much from freezeout MTTs. Most players are tight early and become more loose as the game progresses, and then tighten up again at the bubble.

Feel free to continue to play MTTs as you chase down a bigger payday. But to me STTs have always been my bread and butter when it comes to bankroll building.

I agree, in STT's you will find you will cash more frequently if you play good poker for sure.
On the other side of the coin you will find that with the MTT's once you cash a couple of times it gets easier to do. No matter what how good you play though, sometimes a bad run of cards or that one caller that flushes your aces, there will be those days...
 
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I played in a freeroll last night with close to 700 entrants ( top ten paid ) and bubbled at 11th! :( Played less aggressive & seemed to work until that ONE hand LOL. But it's poker & it's gonna happen a lot. Have fun first & foremost.
 
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If you haven't played any STTs yet, I strongly recommend giving them a try. I prefer STTs over MTTs and cash games any day. You will make the money with greater frequency as 33% of the field cashes which eliminates most of the variance you encounter by only playing MTTs. If you prefer Turbos they finish in less than an hour giving you the opportunity to play multiple STTs during a session compared to the time required to play a single MTT. Play both 6 and 9 max to figure out which you prefer. The important thing with STTs is to make sure you cash consistently.

Once you figure out a STT strategy, you realize it doesn't differ all that much from freezeout MTTs. Most players are tight early and become more loose as the game progresses, and then tighten up again at the bubble.

Feel free to continue to play MTTs as you chase down a bigger payday. But to me STTs have always been my bread and butter when it comes to bankroll building.


Yeah I started playing small buy in STT (2/3$BuyIn) I'm enjoying them alot! Cashing on average 3:1 :)
 
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play the way the books advise : super tight when the blinds are small and super aggressive as soon as the antes kick in .
 
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