Freerolls vs Cash Tournaments

[Rawdeal1955]

Is there a difference I myself think it takes big cash to change some players mindset. A range of play on play can be only 156 starting hands( I think !56). In any case some players use the whole range. Poker takes a lot of thinking longer you play the more thinking. Sometimes I think I killed a lot of brain cells playing poker. I've been playing poker 45 years so I think I could be brain dead. Love the game and yes I'm addicted. Concentration is the biggest part of the game trying to figure who is doing what and their the style of play. How often their play changes in the long run. A game of wait so I wait to see you on the tables. Good game and cards to you.

 

[Reload]

If i understood the question, there is really a very big difference between freeroll and cash tournments: one you can play free having a ticket or even just applying, the other surely you'll need to pay to enter. And usually if you pay, means you have a greater prize granted.

 

[bellicoso]

Cash games are just a long running series of new hands each time you play. You can play for a long or short as you like. Each new hand brings a new opportunity to make some money. However, your freerolls are tournaments where you have to commit to a longer game just to make it in the money, and you have to adapt your play as the tournament progresses. Also, you have no financial commitment on a freeroll. Some people take the opportunity to play more aggressively than they would in a cash game.

 

[bellicoso]

Why don't I constantly win?

I don't think it's possible to constantly win. But what is possible, is that you can play consistently well and win more over the long term. With freerolls, it may not seem that way because it's so crazy in the first several levels of play, and you only have a small stack to start. However, there's no financial commitment on a freeroll, and if you play to win each time (and play well), you'll get in the money and maybe even win a few here and there. This opens up an opportunity to play in some micro-stakes tournaments, where it's far less chaotic and you can actually play a good game. The key to freerolling is to play a lot and play well. If you do that, you'll see results. And, again, it doesn't cost you anything.

 

[poliaris747]

Hi! I'm amazed at your poker experience! 45 years old it's interesting how many millions of hands have you played and how many opponents have you seen at the poker table? I'd like to meet you at the poker table and fight! See you soon!

 

[milka1605]

For me, freerolls are the best option. No need to spend money, but there is an opportunity to win.

 

[hookmeout]

Freerolls are good to get some practice. Isn't cash games tougher than tournaments?

 

[Iryna Stryzheuskaya]

Freerolls are a good way to build a starting bankroll.

 

[MemphisGrind]

Is there a difference I myself think it takes big cash to change some players mindset. A range of play on play can be only 156 starting hands( I think !56). In any case some players use the whole range. Poker takes a lot of thinking longer you play the more thinking. Sometimes I think I killed a lot of brain cells playing poker. I've been playing poker 45 years so I think I could be brain dead. Love the game and yes I'm addicted. Concentration is the biggest part of the game trying to figure who is doing what and their the style of play. How often their play changes in the long run. A game of wait so I wait to see you on the tables. Good game and cards to you.

I don't know where the comments were leading to in this post, Seems like A lot of people didn't understand your question.. or statement.

It seems like what you're "making a point of" is that players play a wider range in low stakes and free rolls than in mid - high stakes? if this is incorrect please let me know.

Fun fact.. a lot of people feel the same, but what they don't seem to understand is that EVERY person is an individual, they have different emotions, different triggers, different tendencies, different thresholds for pain, different bankrolls, different motives.

You can play a $5 buy in tourney where to one individual this is a big day for them, they have spent years of hard work and grinding, following strict BRM to go from $0 to $1,000 so they can finally play this tourney properly rolled... grinding freerolls to finally take a shot at a new level, and for them this $5 tourney is a chance to move up stakes...it means everything to them!

Then you have the player that logs on for fun and feels like messing around for cheap. and you have every thing in between some that care a little some that care more than a little.. so on and so forth...

This isn't just at LOW levels, it happens at EVERY level. Even at the $1,000,000 buy ins that the best players in the world have to get staked to play and realize a win can CHANGE THEIR LIFE, you got the business man that just wants to play to spend time with the pro's are donate their winnings to their charity.

Money means different things to different people at every level of the game, you will never get to a level of poker where the play is "prestine" At EVERY level you will be faced with sub par players with other agendas than to play their best game and win.

The best way to go about it is to understand each individual players "range" and learn how to exploit their weaknesses.

It's that simple..

 

[scobido]

I rarely play cash because it seems to me that those who have a bigger bankroll play very aggressive and I have no chance with little bankroll

 

[Super_Gleb]

I usually play only freerolls, cause i'm yet newbie and i don't want to risk.

 

[edijs126]

I think that in the freerolls there are more players who don't care about the game and they do a lot of non-deliberate actions and when you have a good hand and you go to all-in, sometimes they are lucky more than you, even if you have AA, This is poker, I wish everyone good luck in the hands when you have monsters on your hands.::

 

[Bertie Wooster]

dinosaurs like us

Is there a difference I myself think it takes big cash to change some players mindset. A range of play on play can be only 156 starting hands( I think !56). In any case some players use the whole range. Poker takes a lot of thinking longer you play the more thinking. Sometimes I think I killed a lot of brain cells playing poker. I've been playing poker 45 years so I think I could be brain dead. Love the game and yes I'm addicted. Concentration is the biggest part of the game trying to figure who is doing what and their the style of play. How often their play changes in the long run. A game of wait so I wait to see you on the tables. Good game and cards to you.

I've been playing forever too. You might think you are "too old" to start using software, but there is some really simple software that can help tremendously, and all the good players are using it on you already.

Something like sharkscope will chart every hand the players at your table are paying. It's $99 one time fee and well worth it. There are pretty deep stats, but I don't even glance at them in a small buy-in tourney. What I look for is how many hands they are playing/raising/calling. You also get to see their "rating", and players with bad ratings play bad as a rule, and studs play like studs. Still...it helps to know a player is a 95+ because they are capable of making moves relative to their stack size.

Example...say you have played 58 hands and a player has voluntarily entered a pot (put $$ in they didn't have to) only 3 times...you can raise the daylights out that guy's BB and he's not going to call unless he has a huge hand...by the same token, if he raises- WATCH OUT!

If a guy's ViP is 47%...this fish is playing every other hand... reraise him with marginal raising hands, call him down with 3rd pair.

I isn't super-involved and it is really really helpful.

Good luck!

 

[BesseNuts]

For sure you cant practice on freerolls! They are diferent from cash.

 

[tauri103]

on the frerrolls everyone tends to play more loose than it should. a free tournament starts to look like a paid tournament when you get paid places.

 

[Max Grondman]

with freerolls you need more patiende but if you win something it feels better

 

[Rawdeal1955]

Thanks to all your reply s all the help will be used. good poker to you all thanks

 

[xbronk]

if there is a lot of difference in the freeroll, the players loose more in the cash they play a lot more reserved eye not all of us all come with strategies to the tables and we try to change them after executing them to try to create an image and then change it and add chips

 

[duson]

Players in freerolls tend to have way wider calling ranges and tend to not fold their one or two pair when the board can give another player something stronger. Between the lack of buy-in and the low experience most freerolls are easy to navigate if you play tight and aggressive. When it comes to paying for buy-ins, the more expensive the more intelligent the players typically become. They'll recognize patterns and ranges and adjust accordingly so you'll have to start adjusting and make different moves as well.

 

[Manifestor]

tournaments its better for me )
because you will have more of thinking players )

 

[Shota]

Even at the $1,000,000 buy ins that the best players in the world have to get staked to play and realize a win can CHANGE THEIR LIFE, you got the business man that just wants to play to spend time with the pro's are donate their winnings to their charity.
100b dollars???

 

[sheltowee420]

I think that people play really good or really crazy with the on-line electric money, but, when cash is on the table, in a live game, people play much tighter. I think that it is much easier to just push the button and watch the numbers change, then it is to actually push your real cash into the pot.

 

[619Leafs]

Freerolls I like because of no risk fee however prize payouts are not that great.

Tournaments you gotta pay a fee but if your lucky enough to reach the money you could multiply your bankroll in a significant way.

 

[MemphisGrind]

Even at the $1,000,000 buy ins that the best players in the world have to get staked to play and realize a win can CHANGE THEIR LIFE, you got the business man that just wants to play to spend time with the pro's are donate their winnings to their charity.
100b dollars???

Was this a question? If so I’m referring to guy laliberte mainly as an example to show the drastic difference of how some people value money. It’s not a hundred billion dollars it’s one million. Guy laliberte consistently plays in the highest stakes, and donates all his winnings to charity. He couldn’t care less about the money.