Combatting Limpers

[Matt_Burns88]

Hi all,

I wanted to get your thoughts on limpers and how you adjust your play to combat them.

We all know that normal freezeout tournaments, open limping preflop is bad, with the exception of the SB. But it still happens...A LOT.

How do you play against the limp? Do you widen your range, or tighten it? Do you increase your raise size or not? Do you over limp and if so, with what types of hands?

If you have any good strategy articles, please do share.

Thanks!

 

[PsychoVas]

I keep playing my range, but I add at least a BB for every limper. If you let them crowl into the flop, most times they will outdraw you. So, you have to make them pay. Think of them as "pre-flop-calling-stations". Treat them the same hurtful way. Value bet the living daylights outta them.

 

[Gallarado777]

You need to play very aggressively against such players and don't let them watch the flop for cheap, just bet big so that they pay you very dearly and in the future they won't do this a couple of times, you'll punish them for it after they will play against you very carefully

 

[yuriko oyama]

I personally do the basic 4x, and I don't like limp.

 

[eetenor]

Hi all,

I wanted to get your thoughts on limpers and how you adjust your play to combat them.

We all know that normal freezeout tournaments, open limping preflop is bad, with the exception of the SB. But it still happens...A LOT.

How do you play against the limp? Do you widen your range, or tighten it? Do you increase your raise size or not? Do you over limp and if so, with what types of hands?

If you have any good strategy articles, please do share.

Thanks!

gtowizard has a blog article called limpin is pimpin it has some good data.

In the article it suggests attacking limps with mid range hands is a leak in your game much better to overcall and realize equity

 

[Matt_Burns88]

gtowizard has a blog article called limpin is pimpin it has some good data.

In the article it suggests attacking limps with mid range hands is a leak in your game much better to overcall and realize equity

Thanks. I found the article. It's really inciteful. Lots of takeaways from it.

Here's the link for anyone else that is interested - https://blog.gtowizard.com/is-limping-pimping/

 

[CDNMAN 42]

I have noticed over the past year or so, Hold'em strategy has gone from a standard RFI amount of 3BB to Min raise and now Limping. I guess the objective being to get in as cheaply as possible and then get lucky??? Apparently the newer players are more speculative and on sites like PS this can work ok. But all should realize when you limp or even min raise pre flop you are letting the BB and SB in cheaply and that is where players play junk and yes get lucky with the flop..usually called a Big Blind Special where the BB gets to see the flop for just the BB and gets real lucky and cracks AA..not my strategy. but then I haven't won wsop yet either,,lol

 

[Matt_Burns88]

I have noticed over the past year or so, Hold'em strategy has gone from a standard RFI amount of 3BB to Min raise and now Limping. I guess the objective being to get in as cheaply as possible and then get lucky??? Apparently the newer players are more speculative and on sites like PS this can work ok. But all should realize when you limp or even min raise pre flop you are letting the BB and SB in cheaply and that is where players play junk and yes get lucky with the flop..usually called a Big Blind Special where the BB gets to see the flop for just the BB and gets real lucky and cracks AA..not my strategy. but then I haven't won WSOP yet either,,lol

Limping is certainly not optimal at most stack sizes, but you still see a lot of players doing it.

In terms of raise size, until you get down to 30bb effective, solvers prefer 2.3-2.5x, even at 150bb+