Check it down while someone is all in?

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Or here's another one I *really* hate: the bet is 100, and someone raises 199 (or some other stupid odd amount). Both of these would get you, if not kicked out of a casino, and least slapped around by your tablemates or dealer.

I can see it being a problem in a casino where it would slow the action down by tripping up the dealer and making people count out more chips, but should be no issue at all online. I make odd preflop bets btw :smile: and have legitimate reasons behind it.

/Hijack.
 
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I can see it being a problem in a casino where it would slow the action down by tripping up the dealer and making people count out more chips, but should be no issue at all online. I make odd preflop bets btw :smile: and have legitimate reasons behind it.

/Hijack.
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I guess cuz I've spent so many years in casinos. I hate it. Probably won't change.:cool:
 
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SoCalJD said:
Or here's another one I *really* hate: the bet is 100, and someone raises 199 (or some other stupid odd amount). Both of these would get you, if not kicked out of a casino, and least slapped around by your tablemates or dealer.

As a dealer, I wouldn't be slapping anyone for doing that. Besides, in reality it's not really something that can come up often anyway.

In a tournament the smallest denomination chips regularly get removed when they're no longer needed so they can't make the bet that irritating. And even in cash games the amount of small denomination chips is usually pretty well controlled. I know playing $1-2 or $2-3 at my local casino there'll usually only be about $50 in white $1 chips on the table at any one time because they're constantly getting taken back off the table as rake.
 
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As a dealer, I wouldn't be slapping anyone for doing that. Besides, in reality it's not really something that can come up often anyway.

In a tournament the smallest denomination chips regularly get removed when they're no longer needed so they can't make the bet that irritating. And even in cash games the amount of small denomination chips is usually pretty well controlled. I know playing $1-2 or $2-3 at my local casino there'll usually only be about $50 in white $1 chips on the table at any one time because they're constantly getting taken back off the table as rake.
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I know. Which is why you never see it in a casino, but you do o/l. I hate it.
 
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The question of checking down only applies when the potential elimination is meaningful, such as nearing the bubble or some other jump in payout. But even then, you should do what's best for you. Quite often, that is checking down. But not always. For example, if you're a big stack and your table is letting you steal the sizable blinds at will, you may not especially care if betting a third player out of a hand allows a small stack to double up. It may be just as good or even better for you if that happens rather than checking down, the third player wins, breaking the bubble, and stealing becomes a lot harder.
 
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Key point is, NEVER bluff into an empty side pot when there's an all-in player. Because you're only going to get called by better hand and if you don't get called, you still need better hand than an all-ined player. Only bet if you actually have a hand to kick your opponent off and take down the pot by going heads-up against all-ined player.

There are dumbasses who bluff into an empty side pot. WHen there are idiots who bet into an empty side pot when I have the nuts, I slow-roll them. I get good kicks out of it.

Checking it down when you don't have anything is a right play. It's pure retarded to bluff into an empty side pot when there's an all-ined player.
 
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There are dumbasses who bluff into an empty side pot. WHen there are idiots who bet into an empty side pot when I have the nuts, I slow-roll them. I get good kicks out of it.

Did you not take enough abuse in the "I just slowrolled someone" thread?
 
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I normaly check down also, with the exceptions pointed out before.

Nuts, real early, large side pot, a chance to get the other villian all-in and KOd, ect.

The only other times I dont is if its a KO tourney. Betting off the other villian and saveing the all-in guy can possably get you the KO bounty later. But there has to b some give and take on this close to the bubble also. If the bounty is $1.00 and the bottom pay spot is $10.00, its a better profit to check down and get rid of the bubble.

Or in a normaly MTT close to bubble. If your the large stack at the table, and have been stealing alot of blinds. Saveing the all-in guy can make you a decent profit with easy chips by keeping the bubble up.
Its kinda rude ya, but if your doing it as a profit strategy beyond just that pot, I think its acceptable.
 
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In a tournament i will check it down in most situations but if i am low on chips and have a small piece after the flop and i think i can win the whole pot if i push the other guy out and its early in the tourny i will push them out but otherwise its an obvious checkdown
 
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Did you not take enough abuse in the "I just slowrolled someone" thread?

As I mentioned in that thread. I only slow-roll two types of people.
1. Someone who previously slow-rolled other people or me.
2. Idiots who bluff into an empty side pot when I have the nuts.

I do not feel guilty of these actions. I simply believe that they deserve it.

People can outplay me, bluff me, suckout, etc. Those piss me off but they're part of the game. I do not slow-roll people over those reason.
 
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for me it depends alot on the situation, i will check it down if I am in a tourney where every elimination means that I will move one spot up, but usually that is towards the end of the tourney or when it has been running a while

usually in the beginning or if it doesnt make me move up one spot I play this without checking but I don't play it like this too often
 
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I owuld check it down here too unless i had a huge hand a really loose player in that would make the pot large and therefore very wofrthwhile as a chance to go further in the tourney som etimes you ju7st got to check and wait for your opportunity and not loose yyour kool or yor head
 
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Yes check it down if..... Your close to the money and want to get players out or your in the money and want to move up in money. Theres no sense betting into a empty side pot. However if there is money in a side pot and you have a high pair or a draw then try to win the side pot. I have encountered this in a few different ways, usually its where I have a great hand and willing to check it down but the other person in the pot with chips bets into a empty side pot so I teach them a lesson and bust them at the same time. Also I have seen where I have a so so hand gut bets really big into a empty pot so I fold and he has nothing and the all in guy ends up winning the hand where if I was still in he would have been eliminated, and then the all in guy ends up eliminating the guy that bet me out of the pot and saved the all in guy.
 
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I know. Which is why you never see it in a casino, but you do o/l. I hate it.

Erm... this makes no sense. What on earth is the harm in someone doing that online?!?

It doesn't slow the game down a single iota so unless it's offending your sense of aesthetics or you're OCD about always having a round number for your stack size or something (in which case never take part in a split pot either) I just can't see the problem.
 
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Erm... this makes no sense. What on earth is the harm in someone doing that online?!?

It doesn't slow the game down a single iota so unless it's offending your sense of aesthetics or you're OCD about always having a round number for your stack size or something (in which case never take part in a split pot either) I just can't see the problem.

I think it has to do with making stack you bet look bigger to those that do not have the bet size right next to the stack.
 
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Erm... this makes no sense. What on earth is the harm in someone doing that online?!?

It doesn't slow the game down a single iota so unless it's offending your sense of aesthetics or you're OCD about always having a round number for your stack size or something (in which case never take part in a split pot either) I just can't see the problem.
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Pretty sure I explained why. I can hate it if I want. It's my right. I've been playing in casinos for 30 years, and it isn't done there. I just think it's stupid, and it makes no sense.
 
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