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The key to the bankroll question is our skill level-if we move down do we have the skill to beat the lower limit to replenish our bankroll and then move back up- However if we do not have a skill advantage moving down just means we keep losing slower nowGeneral bankroll advice is to have 100 buyins. That means if i play 1$ tournaments i need 100$ bankroll.
But if my bankroll keeps decreasing, when i should move down to 0,5$ ? When i lost half of it (have 50$ left) or when ?
Well it depends on tournaments , if you play big field tournaments you should have a minimum of 100 buy ins for the limit , but if you play small field tourneys you can play with 50-60 buy ins ,General bankroll advice is to have 100 buyins. That means if i play 1$ tournaments i need 100$ bankroll.
But if my bankroll keeps decreasing, when i should move down to 0,5$ ? When i lost half of it (have 50$ left) or when ?
This is a very important point. A bankroll is supposed to be an amount of money dedicated to poker, which protects a winning player from going broke due to short term variance. But poker is a zero sum game with rake, so per definition there have to be more losing than winning players. And for that reason, unless you are a proven winning player, it makes more sense to think about a poker budget rather than a poker bankroll. So for playing 1$ tournaments for instance maybe the plan is to deposit 20$ every month, when you get your paycheck, until you have a track record saying, you are actually winning. And if you lose those 20$, then rather than moving down to 0,5$ tournaments, you just take a break for the rest of the month. Or play some freerolls or play money games.The key to the bankroll question is our skill level-if we move down do we have the skill to beat the lower limit to replenish our bankroll and then move back up- However if we do not have a skill advantage moving down just means we keep losing slower now
Solid advice that, it’s how I began live. Played 2 weekly games till I cashed before a played cash, built up my bankroll and never looked back from there. Online however definitely needs more restraint and rigidity.... Something I don’t have as yet alas, but dropping a stake I personally wouldn’t feel as beneficial unless your really struggling. I’d suggest tightening your game and/or finding a variant like 50/&0 you can multi grind to raise your roll and give you additional shots at your larger field games maybe....unless you are a proven winning player, it makes more sense to think about a poker budget rather than a poker bankroll. So for playing 1$ tournaments for instance maybe the plan is to deposit 20$ every month, when you get your paycheck, until you have a track record saying, you are actually winning. And if you lose those 20$, then rather than moving down to 0,5$ tournaments, you just take a break for the rest of the month. Or play some freerolls or play money games.
Try to simply make these calculations in percentages. That is, you just risk only 1 percent out of a hundred. I think it is not difficult to calculate. If your bankroll is one hundred dollars, you play in a tournament for $1. If your bankroll is 80 dollars then you play the tournament for 80 cents. And so on.General bankroll advice is to have 100 buyins. That means if i play 1$ tournaments i need 100$ bankroll.
But if my bankroll keeps decreasing, when i should move down to 0,5$ ? When i lost half of it (have 50$ left) or when ?
Saying someone who plays $1 tournaments is not a professional might be true for us in relatively high income countries, but someone in developing country could easily make a living playing $1 MTTs or even freerolls to be honest.However if you play 1$ tournaments, you are not a professional player, and then it mostly depends on, how important it is for you to not deposit again. For me personally I have always used 100 BIs as the minimum required. So for me I would stop playing 1$ MTTs, if I had less than 100$. This is however fairly conservative, and an alternative approach is to say, that you must always have at least 100 BIs for the limit lower than the one, you are playing.
There are certainly people in lower income countries, who live from or have a significant side income from online poker, but I dont think, any of them limit themselfes to playing only $1 MTTs. This makes no sense, since games are still soft even at somewhat higher limits than this, and game selection is also better. Below is an example of someone, who is likely a microstakes pro given the amount of volume, they have put in. In their last 8 games this player did actually include a $1,1 MTT but also some more expensive buyins up to $7,5. And they are likely not concerned with how to manage a $100 bankroll, given that they have won more than $100k during their "career" on pokerstarsSaying someone who plays $1 tournaments is not a professional might be true for us in relatively high income countries, but someone in developing country could easily make a living playing $1 MTTs or even freerolls to be honest.