what do u think?

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seannn

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full tilt poker Game #4482557665: $20 + $2 Sit & Go (33976227), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:39:07 ET - 2007/12/12
Seat 2: hoya122 (1,475)
Seat 4: theacebear (1,430)
Seat 5: younggun03 (1,380)
Seat 6: FastAsFire (3,980)
Seat 7: Thanatosil (1,155)
Seat 8: AMATUER (2,565)
Seat 9: Lovinwings63 (1,515)
hoya122 posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to theacebear [Ah Th]
theacebear raises to 150
younggun03 folds
FastAsFire folds
Thanatosil folds
AMATUER folds
Lovinwings63 folds
hoya122 has 15 seconds left to act
hoya122 raises to 425
theacebear has 15 seconds left to act
theacebear calls 275
*** FLOP *** [7d Ad Ks]
hoya122 bets 400
theacebear has 15 seconds left to act
theacebear raises to 1,005, and is all in
hoya122 calls 605
theacebear shows [Ah Th]
hoya122 shows [Ac As]
*** TURN *** [7d Ad Ks] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [7d Ad Ks Kh] [2d]
theacebear shows two pair, Aces and Kings
hoya122 shows a full house, Aces full of Kings
hoya122 wins the pot (2,860) with a full house, Aces full of Kings
theacebear stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,860 | Rake 0
Board: [7d Ad Ks Kh 2d]
Seat 2: hoya122 (big blind) showed [Ac As] and won (2,860) with a full house, Aces full of Kings
Seat 4: theacebear showed [Ah Th] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 5: younggun03 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: FastAsFire didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Thanatosil didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: AMATUER didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Lovinwings63 (button) didn't bet (folded)
 
pigpen02

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I think hoya's re-raise showed a big pair or maybe a big ace. I think his post-flop bet says the same, but not queens because he is not afraid of AK on board. Therefore, you had a losing hand when you went all in.

I also think a more descriptive subject and some comments in the post would help.
 
DetroitJimmy

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Fold preflop,fold after the raise.There were plenty of hands that would have raised you that had you beat post flop.Folding this mediocre hand before the flop makes your decision much easier.

I would raise a hand like this up to 200 or so in a later position in an unopened pot though.Maybe from 1 off the cutoff or later.It's way to early in a SNG to be raising from early position with this hand IMHO.

Also if I did play it to the point that you did preflop,I would almost for sure think I was beat and was drawing dead.Throw a couple of hearts on this board and I may push this hand post flop.

So to make a long story shorter,fold preflop.
 
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switch0723

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that indeed, forget hte pre flop re raise, i fold that utg straight off, never mind folding in every other situation your presented. I rarely play utg, id play 67 from cutoff more than a t utg
 
pantin007

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ok yes he should have folded but he didnt tell us if he had reads on the player, if he was hyper aggressive
if the person is prone to raising with king queen or ace x suited it would not neccesarily be a bad play
but with no notes on the player u have to fold to the preflop raise
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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The original raise UTG is okay - not something I'd do 100% of the time, or even 50% of the time, but it's reasonable if table conditions suit it.

That said, in raising UTG, you've represented a hand that's much stronger than ATs. Even though he likely thinks you have a stronger hand than ATs, the SB has reraised, and as such it becomes an incredibly routine fold for you.
 
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switch0723

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The original raise UTG is okay - not something I'd do 100% of the time, or even 50% of the time, but it's reasonable if table conditions suit it.

That said, in raising UTG, you've represented a hand that's much stronger than ATs. Even though he likely thinks you have a stronger hand than ATs, the SB has reraised, and as such it becomes an incredibly routine fold for you.

read this one instead of mine. DM just basically said what i was trying to say, but he did it in a better way
 
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