TPTK in postion with weak board...C-bet here?

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Nice Flop. Nothing scary and I have TPTK. Do I continue aggression? Let someone else bet for me? Or bet out on the turn no matter what hits? There are a lot of players behind me that havent shown a lot of strength and I want a player with KQ, K10, A8, etc to bet out.

full tilt poker Game #4273970309: $6 + $0.50 Sit & Go (Turbo) (32427544), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:51:08 ET - 2007/11/23
Seat 1: MACKZUK (1,500)
Seat 2: bigjack234 (1,350)
Seat 3: Mags7811 (1,425)
Seat 4: Michelleisme (1,470)
Seat 5: xxxroadkingxxx (1,440)
Seat 6: dani1982 (1,500)
Seat 7: thymebalm (1,500)
Seat 8: SC3365 (1,830)
Seat 9: Philthy (1,485)
Michelleisme posts the small blind of 15
xxxroadkingxxx posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Philthy [Kc Ac]
dani1982 calls 30
thymebalm folds
SC3365 calls 30
Philthy raises to 150
MACKZUK calls 150
bigjack234 calls 150
Mags7811 folds
Michelleisme folds
xxxroadkingxxx folds
dani1982 calls 120
SC3365 calls 120
*** FLOP *** [4c 8d Ks]
dani1982 checks
SC3365 checks
Philthy has 15 seconds left to act
 
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Dont slow play here. Bet out, you dont want a hand like 10's/9's etc to catch. I bet out and call a shove in a turbo.
 
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But couldnt I give hands like 10J, JQ, 10Q, etc a little bit of rope on the turn and then come out betting on the turn if no one bets? And if someone bets the flop, I can come over the top.
 
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Nah, just bet. 8x, 99 and similar hands probably won't bet themselves but might call a bet.

No need to get tricky here IMO. If you check-raise A8 it might scare him off. Since KQ hands are likely to stack anyways, you're better off just leading and trapping dead money from those worse hands that aren't calling ch-raises.

There's also a metagame factor in this. If you show that you'll slowplay even TPTK, then they might not respect your c-bets next time, expecting you to be bluffing. If you fire out a c-bet here, your opponents might remember it and respect your next one.

The only time I'm really thinking about slowplaying this is 3-handed or HU, but even then I'm mostly just betting anyways.
 
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Bet. There are far too many opponents still in the pot here.

Even though it looks pretty, all you have is a pair.

You are not strong enough that you can afford to give them a free card.
 
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Philthy bets 300
[Very small C-bet into a weak board. I figured Im already showing a lot of strength PF with my raise, a 3/4-pot size C bet here will scream strengh. So, I figured this size will entice a call or even better, a raise.]
MACKZUK folds
bigjack234 folds
dani1982 folds
SC3365 has 15 seconds left to act
SC3365 folds
Uncalled bet of 300 returned to Philthy
Philthy mucks
Philthy wins the pot (795)
The blinds are now 20/40
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 795 | Rake 0
Board: [4c 8d Ks]
Seat 1: MACKZUK folded on the Flop
Seat 2: bigjack234 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Mags7811 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Michelleisme (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: xxxroadkingxxx (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: dani1982 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: thymebalm didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: SC3365 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Philthy collected (795), mucked
 
mrsnake3695

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Nothing wrong with that result. If you checked here you probably wouldn't get any more money in the pot anyway unless you were beat.
 
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Agree with what people have said above.

I know I'm usually disappointed too when I don't win more money with such a pretty hand, but the result's a good one and I think you played it right.
 
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