Tough River Decision

[The Shrog]

pokerstars Game #19816588277: Tournament #103697597, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/08/22 - 16:50:19 (ET)
Table '103697597 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: chafs07 (1465 in chips)
Seat 2: 808donk (2165 in chips)
Seat 3: monkeyboogie (1230 in chips)
Seat 5: CrowKiller88 (2670 in chips)
Seat 6: meckhoff (1185 in chips)
Seat 7: welshyk (1675 in chips)
Seat 8: The Shrog (1720 in chips)
Seat 9: k00lguy22 (1390 in chips)
The Shrog: posts small blind 15
k00lguy22: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Shrog [Jh Th]
chafs07: calls 30
808donk: folds
monkeyboogie: folds
CrowKiller88: calls 30
meckhoff: calls 30
welshyk: calls 30
The Shrog: calls 15
k00lguy22: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d 9h 7h]
The Shrog: checks
k00lguy22: checks
chafs07: checks
CrowKiller88: checks
meckhoff: bets 120
welshyk: folds
The Shrog: calls 120
k00lguy22: calls 120
chafs07: folds
CrowKiller88: folds
*** TURN *** [9d 9h 7h] [6h]
The Shrog: checks
k00lguy22: checks
meckhoff: checks
*** RIVER *** [9d 9h 7h 6h] [3c]
The Shrog: bets 240
k00lguy22: raises 420 to 660

1. Maybe I should have raised the flop? It seemed like in the multiway pot, a call here was best, so that was my flop line.
2. I was betting the river for value, at least I thought...I don't see how he could raise with anything less than a nut flush. A raggy FH possibly also, since the two of us were in the blinds.

 

[c9h13no3]

I snap call this raise. You'll have 910 left if you lose it, and there's like a billion chips in the pot. Not to mention you checked the turn and massively under-repped your hand.

Insta-call!

 

[The Shrog]

His raise isn't even that large, so I couldn't see it as a bluff...unless he's really bad and trying to get value out of a small flush?

 

[Steveg1976]

I don't play these limits but it looks like value bet that is scared of the flush. Definetely worth a call but a raise only gets called by hands that beat you here, imo.

 

[JustRaiseTheBlinds]

Raise or limp are both ok with J10s.
After the turn you could have raise him. To something like 350.
But call is ok.
After the turn you should have raised. You made your hand, so don't give your opponents a free card.
After that re-raise from your opponent I should go all-in. I don't read him on a full house. Because he would be more agressive after the flop. I also don't read him on a flush. Because he checked the turn on the button.

What was the result???

 

[blankoblanco]

sigh-call because he was BB and checked his option, could have a weaker flush

 

[Effexor]

What did meckhoff do after koolguy raised you on the river?

Need that info before making a decision. If he folded, easy call for you. His range for a river bet there is a whole lot larger than just FH's and big flushes. Specially since you gave no real indication of strength at any point. He could have slow played a 9, got scared of the flush draw on the turn and then figured his 9 was good on the river since nobody bet the turn. He could think that you are trying a weak steal, he could have a smaller flush, or just a 7, or any myriad of hands you beat.

 

[Cowboy8112]

my bet is he has A 9, its your pot. I make the call

 

[hegezsolt]

You must call the raise. I think he didnt hit the fullhouse.
He can have a set or nothing.
But what happened? Did you called or folded?

 

[Cowboy8112]

Come on Shrog, cliffhangers are only for TV, What happened?
Did you fold and he mucked?
come on brother tell us

 

[Egon Towst]

Definetely worth a call but a raise only gets called by hands that beat you here, imo.

I concur.

 

[switch0723]

check raise flop imo.

other than that, snap call river, but don't expect to win every time