straight with flush draw on board?

heatfan03

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heyy i was wondering how you would play this? i feel i played it good until the turn. my check was because i felt no bet would throw him off his either flush draw or two pair(i put him on that). I realize one of my mistakes was making a reflex call on the river and quicklyy calling the all in.

full tilt poker Game #2992779943: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (22769992), Table 13 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 6:57:33 ET - 2007/07/19
Seat 1: tonyo66 (4,660)
Seat 2: Gundahl528 (5,720)
Seat 3: irdc (2,515)
Seat 4: Bigfishs (11,080)
Seat 5: tranzmishen (2,950)
Seat 6: theanswer66 (6,685)
Seat 7: AAinTokyo (11,733)
Seat 8: flash4thewin (7,035)
Seat 9: Hairy Monkey1 (6,775)
irdc posts the small blind of 100
Bigfishs posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to flash4thewin [Tc Qs]
tranzmishen folds
theanswer66 folds
AAinTokyo raises to 400
flash4thewin calls 400
Hairy Monkey1 folds
tonyo66 folds
Gundahl528 folds
irdc folds
Bigfishs calls 200
*** FLOP *** [Jh Td Kh]
Bigfishs checks
AAinTokyo checks
flash4thewin bets 400
Bigfishs folds
AAinTokyo raises to 800
flash4thewin calls 400
*** TURN *** [Jh Td Kh] [9h]
AAinTokyo checks
flash4thewin checks
*** RIVER *** [Jh Td Kh 9h] [Jd]
AAinTokyo bets 10,533, and is all in
flash4thewin calls 5,835, and is all in
Uncalled bet of 4,698 returned to AAinTokyo
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AAinTokyo shows [Kd Kc] a full house, Kings full of Jacks
flash4thewin mucks
AAinTokyo wins the pot (14,570) with a full house, Kings full of Jacks
flash4thewin stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14,570 | Rake 0
Board: [Jh Td Kh 9h Jd]
Seat 1: tonyo66 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Gundahl528 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: irdc (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Bigfishs (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: tranzmishen didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: theanswer66 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: AAinTokyo showed [Kd Kc] and won (14,570) with a full house, Kings full of Jacks
Seat 8: flash4thewin mucked [Tc Qs] - a straight, King high
Seat 9: Hairy Monkey1 didn't bet (folded)
 
Afterlife000

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Wouldve done the same thing you did, i dont think you did anything wrong, couldnt put him on trips though.
 
brutus

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fold preflop Q10 offsuit isnt good enough to get involved in a hand thats raised 4x bb. you're not hurting for chips so theres no reason to get involved. after the flop you're pretty much doomed there probably wasnt much chance of getting them out of the hand. after the turn i probably would have made a value to see where i stand though, if its reraised id fold.
 
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Your self analysis is correct. I took lots of Omaha to drive the point home into my thick skull, but any time there are a pair showing, the possibility of a boat is real.

Your big mistake was checking the turn. But in hindsight, it wouldn't have mattered. KKK at that point ain't folding out. He understood that if you didn't already have that straight, you had the open ender and were willing to go extreme, did you give him credit for the set at that point? You didn't mention it, so it eluded you. The 2nd J was not good for you.

But you know all this.

Ah, the lure of the stfl. Always hard to lay down. But before you called the all in, you had enough info lay this hand down.
 
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At this time in the tourney you are looking to gain any advantage you can. Q 10os is hand you can call with to just see the flop. Remember he raised 4XBB there. You got a pair of tens and a low str8 draw there. His raise to you on the flop is giving lots of info. Listen to it. He could have As, or Ks,(as he did). Or he could have flopped the str8 A high. At this point you needed to fold and not to chase. Learn the lesson here and apply it for next time.
 
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