Slow played set from SB

Alon Ipser

Alon Ipser

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Just got moved a few hands earlier so I don't have a read on these players. A few questions about the hand. Was the slow play an acceptable strategy? Check the turn? All in on the river?

PokerStars Game #5817556171: Tournament #29454586, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/08/06 - 11:43:31 (ET)
Table '29454586 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Alon Ipser (2755 in chips)
Seat 3: quick140 (2460 in chips)
Seat 4: tass0815 (2738 in chips)
Seat 5: mjt99 (780 in chips)
Seat 6: leftywrightd (8110 in chips)
Seat 7: ACESFULL724 (2827 in chips)
Seat 8: Bedoret (3560 in chips)
Alon Ipser: posts small blind 25
quick140: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Alon Ipser [Ts Td]
tass0815: calls 50
mjt99: folds
leftywrightd: calls 50
ACESFULL724: calls 50
Bedoret: folds
Alon Ipser: calls 25
quick140: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah Th 2s]
Alon Ipser: checks I like playing sets slowly from the small blind because they are hard to read. Someone is bound to have an ace so I check and hope they do my betting. Only concern is the flush draw.
quick140: checks
tass0815: checks
leftywrightd: checks
ACESFULL724: bets 100
Alon Ipser: calls 100
quick140: folds
tass0815: calls 100
leftywrightd: folds
*** TURN *** [Ah Th 2s] [Qc]
Alon Ipser: checks Damn, now there's a flush draw and possible straight. I don't know if an info bet to see if the straight was hit will do any good because if one or both have aces, they probably call.
tass0815: checks
ACESFULL724: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ah Th 2s Qc] [As]
Alon Ipser: bets 2605 and is all-in Sweet, I was hoping the board would pair but would have preferred one of the other cards but dont think any of them have the aces fullhouse but I'm hoping they have trips ;)
tass0815: calls 2588 and is all-in
ACESFULL724: calls 2605
 
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Styrofoam

Visionary
just hope neither of them had A 10 or AQ, AA, or QQ. you have the 5th nuts...and almost surely the best hand.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

HELLO INTERNET
Preflop: There's a case for raising, but the limp is okay.

Flop: I don't like the slowplay given that there are two high cards and a flush draw out. I lead, and if someone has an Ace, they'll most likely call, so very little changes. No need to risk giving a free card here.

Turn: You have to bet the turn. The board is now very draw-heavy. You say betting will gain you little info, I disagree. If you bet here and get raised, it provides you with more info then if you check and someone bets. Then of course there's the danger it gets checked around and you're giving people a free card to beat you. If a decent player has the straight here they will almost certainly raise if you bet because of the dangerous, draw-heavy board. If you bet and get raised, well, you have to make a decision based on reads and the wideness of the range you can give to villain.

You say "I don't know if an info bet to see if the straight was hit will do any good because if one or both have aces, they probably call." - well isn't a call exactly what you want if they have Aces?

River: Fine.


I wonder if "ACESFULL" ironically had Aces full? ;)
 
ChuckTs

ChuckTs

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Alon Ipser said:
PokerStars Game #5817556171: Tournament #29454586, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/08/06 - 11:43:31 (ET)
Table '29454586 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Alon Ipser (2755 in chips)
Seat 3: quick140 (2460 in chips)
Seat 4: tass0815 (2738 in chips)
Seat 5: mjt99 (780 in chips)
Seat 6: leftywrightd (8110 in chips)
Seat 7: ACESFULL724 (2827 in chips)
Seat 8: Bedoret (3560 in chips)
Alon Ipser: posts small blind 25
quick140: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Alon Ipser [Ts Td]
tass0815: calls 50
mjt99: folds
leftywrightd: calls 50
ACESFULL724: calls 50
Bedoret: folds
Alon Ipser: calls 25
quick140: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah Th 2s]
Alon Ipser: checks I like playing sets slowly from the small blind because they are hard to read. Someone is bound to have an ace so I check and hope they do my betting. Only concern is the flush draw. If you think someone has an ace, don't you think leading out for value would be better? If they have a solid ace (AK or AQ or hopefully AT) then they'll probably raise you. Then you can come over the top, and they're trapped. I don't like letting the other players see a free card either.
quick140: checks
tass0815: checks
leftywrightd: checks
ACESFULL724: bets 100
Alon Ipser: calls 100 Raise!
quick140: folds
tass0815: calls 100
leftywrightd: folds
*** TURN *** [Ah Th 2s] Q♣
Alon Ipser: checks Damn, now there's a flush draw and possible straight. I don't know if an info bet to see if the straight was hit will do any good because if one or both have aces, they probably call. You're not gettin any value from your set! Bet my friend BET!
tass0815: checks
ACESFULL724: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ah Th 2s Qc] A♠
Alon Ipser: bets 2605 and is all-in Sweet, I was hoping the board would pair but would have preferred one of the other cards but dont think any of them have the aces fullhouse but I'm hoping they have trips ;)
tass0815: calls 2588 and is all-in
ACESFULL724: calls 2605


Think of it this way: If someone's on a heart draw, and you slowplay to the river like you did, he's #1 going to get free cards to draw to that 3rd heart, and #2 if he misses his draw, he's not going to call anything on the river! Bet into them while they're still drawing. I have a hunch one of them was slowplaying top 2 pair or something like that, which is a perfect time to get all your money in.
 
Alon Ipser

Alon Ipser

Cardschat Elite
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Alon Ipser: shows [Ts Td] (a full house, Tens full of Aces)
ACESFULL724: shows [Ad 4d] (three of a kind, Aces)
Alon Ipser collected 34 from side pot
tass0815: shows [Kd Jc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Alon Ipser collected 8314 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8348 Main pot 8314. Side pot 34. | Rake 0
Board [Ah Th 2s Qc As]
Seat 1: Alon Ipser (small blind) showed [Ts Td] and won (8348) with a full house, Tens full of Aces
Seat 3: quick140 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: tass0815 showed [Kd Jc] and lost with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: mjt99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: leftywrightd folded on the Flop
Seat 7: ACESFULL724 showed [Ad 4d] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 8: Bedoret (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Despite the results, I figured that I had played it wrong. Poker's funny, you can play a hand completely right and lose or vice versa as in my case. I am lucky that the board paired or I have the feeling that I am paying Tass off big
 
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