Shove pre or post?

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mischman

Legend
Would shove preflop or post flop? He raised from the cutoff and you have AQ, should you reraise him or try to make your hand first?

pokerstars Game #616928: Tournament #30624, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (600/1200) - 2006/09/04 - 00:56:35 (ET)
Table '30629174 3' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Joe9673 (17381 in chips)
Seat 2: ericlb111 (28316 in chips)
Seat 3: mischman (21675 in chips)
Seat 4: steelheart14 (20403 in chips)
Seat 5: Bozzie25 (16878 in chips)
Seat 6: ctbj1 (16842 in chips)
Seat 7: johhny ola (30987 in chips)
Seat 8: rafema (15600 in chips)
Seat 9: lbkeith5 (14520 in chips)
Joe9673: posts the ante 75
ericlb111: posts the ante 75
mischman: posts the ante 75
steelheart14: posts the ante 75
Bozzie25: posts the ante 75
ctbj1: posts the ante 75
johhny ola: posts the ante 75
rafema: posts the ante 75
lbkeith5: posts the ante 75
ericlb111: posts small blind 600
mischman: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mischman [Ad Qc]
steelheart14: folds
Bozzie25: folds
ctbj1: folds
johhny ola: folds
rafema: folds
lbkeith5: raises 1200 to 2400
Joe9673: folds
ericlb111: folds
mischman: ????????????
 
shinedown.45

shinedown.45

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re-raise him here because of the lack of players in the hand and the amount that folded before the raise tells me that there is a very good chance that your cards are still in the deck, and with the raise your opponent made here screams small pockets
 
Effexor

Effexor

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Reraise, possibly a blinds steal attempt so let them know you have a hand, and also try to become the aggressor in the hand.
 
Jack Daniels

Jack Daniels

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What they said...granted I would give this raise a little more credit as it came from the CO not the button. But that min raise is too suspicious. More like he is weak and wants to take the pot cheaply. I think reraise is in order. Push Pre.
 
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Threesixes

Visionary
That raise isnt convincing me either. Push pre and get it all in with the best hand. Maybe you get him to fold before he hits his card on the flop.
 
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Freakakanus

Legend
What were we just saying in another thread? No MinRaises!!!!!
Reraise and find out if he is just jerkin your chain. If you are only giving us the option of pushing all-in pre or post flop I say push now, but that's not excactly what I'd do. I would definatley reraise but (serious question) does it have to be all-in? Is there a number that would get him off the hand without all-in? I'm wondering if I'm not pushing hard enough in situations like this and getting myself into trouble with smaller raises that get called and then lose on turn or river when they catch.
 
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buckster436

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He raised the minimum to 2400, i would either re-raise to 6000 or push allin, that minimum raise tells me he has nothing,, i wasnt playing so i dont know how he was playing during the game.>>>>>>>>>>> buck:joyman:
 
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

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By calling here you're allowing too many 'bad' possibilities to occur.

If you call, you will be out of position, and will only hit a flop 1/3 of the time. Given that CO could be minraising with such a huge range, if you're going to check/fold if you miss, you'll be folding the best hand far too often.

Put him to a decision for all his chips, seeing as any other raise is dangerously close to committing you. You'll get a fold at least three-quarters of the time I'd imagine, and with an M of ~12 you shouldn't be too fearful of coinflipping.

Donk minraises from late position tend to worry me less then early position ones. EP donk minraises often mean 'I have AA/KK and am playing it terribly', whereas LP ones tend to mean 'I have two cards and want the blinds, please fold'.
 
t1riel

t1riel

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A mini-raise? He could have anything. Reraise him and see how he acts. It will cost you some chips for information but it might be worth it.
 
joosebuck

joosebuck

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raise him 5k~ ish and put him to the test. push the flop no matter what comes out of he calls
 
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