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pokerstars Game #20257393453: Tournament #107069904, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/09/08 20:40:36 ET
Table '107069904 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: _XL_ (1460 in chips)
Seat 3: lobo49445 (6450 in chips)
Seat 6: bruce2411 (2670 in chips)
Seat 9: rtts07 (2920 in chips)
lobo49445: posts small blind 75
bruce2411: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to rtts07 [Jc Ac]
rtts07: raises 300 to 450
_XL_: folds
lobo49445: folds
bruce2411: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [7h 9c Qc]
bruce2411: checks
rtts07: bets 600
bruce2411: raises 600 to 1200 -------When you bet less than the pot he automatically min raises
rtts07: raises 1270 to 2470 and is all-in
bruce2411: calls 1020 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (250) returned to rtts07
*** TURN *** [7h 9c Qc] 6♥
*** RIVER *** [7h 9c Qc 6h] 8♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bruce2411: shows [8c Kh] (a pair of Eights)
rtts07: shows [Jc Ac] (high card Ace)
bruce2411 collected 5415 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5415 | Rake 0
Board [7h 9c Qc 6h 8d]
Seat 2: _XL_ (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: lobo49445 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: bruce2411 (big blind) showed [8c Kh] and won (5415) with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: rtts07 showed [Jc Ac] and lost with high card Ace
 
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I agree, you have outs, and you have a read, and villain can't felt you. There are times when you have to be more aggressive than your agro maniac villain. This was one of those times. He had nothing when he made that raise, because you let him make that raise.


Think about it a second and realize that had you shoved your draw, and he still calls, and the cards come out exactly the same, the results would have been NO WORSE!.

However, you gave him an opening, and based on your supplied read, he pounced. Had you shoved, there is a very decent chance he folds.
 
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he may be a maniac and could call even your all in maybe but your hand is good enough, two higher cards plus flush draw. i agree with dj11, when u dont have nuts, u should raise more when dealing with calling station. that could make him fold . also think of that u alled in and were ready to raise 2500 chips, so why not raise 1000 at beginning. but not bad call i think.

also tilt factor is important too (lol i am the last person to say this ) sometimes tension between such guys make oneself call with anything to catch his-her bluff
 
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Easy shove. Make him pay for his weak play, and either take the pot down right then or force him to make a horrible call for all his chips.
 
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it was too early to pay crazy bets like that, online tournaments are totally different of ESPN tournaments ;)
Keep in mind you only see what ESPN wants you to see--The majority of what REALLY goes on in those tournys is edited so you just see the 'exciting' parts!
 
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"When you bet less than the pot he automatically min raises" -- that means that your C-bet, against this villain, gives you **no information** about his hand... You need to bet enough to get actual information on what he's holding, then proceed based on what his call/raise tells you.
 
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why call you should shove, get em in there u have two very aggressive players behind you that seemingly like to bluff, that's poker good luck to you next time, and btw you have an over and all clubs left in deck it is a call situation to me, expecially considering the players behind you :) ( A push is better!)
 
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You played really gutsy. I wouldve folded but he lucked outy and its a shame since you wouldve won with a high card because you had enough balls to make the bluffs. But bottom line is not your fault he lucked out and you didnt. Sorry man.
 
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