Should I have bet the flop?

[silverfox432]

No real read on villian as just changed tables

The bubbles burst I'm 26th out of 99

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HAND #1
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poker stars, $2.20 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 50 ante) NL Hold'em Tourney, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG: 1,435 (3.6 bb)
UTG+1: 9,715 (24.3 bb)
BTN: 15,985 (40 bb)
SB: 21,406 (53.5 bb)
BB: 4,700 (11.8 bb)
MP1: 8,370 (20.9 bb)
Hero (MP2): 12,885 (32.2 bb)
MP3: 1,830 (4.6 bb)
CO: 5,745 (14.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP2 with K

K

MP1 folds, Hero raises to 1,200, 4 folds, BTN calls 1,200, 2 folds

Flop: (3,450) 9

Q

5

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (3,450) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets 2,000, BTN calls 2,000

River: (7,450) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets 4,400, BTN raises to 12,735 and is all-in, Hero calls 5,235 and is all-in

Results: 26,720 pot
BTN showed 7

8

(a straight flush, Five to Nine) and won 26,720 (13,835 net)
Hero showed K

K

(a flush, King high) and lost (-12,885 net)

 

[Jillychemung]

With a FD on the flop yes you should bet it. With the flat call on the turn I don't think I would have bet the river and I would have folded to a river shove here and called a river value bet. But this is really just a cooler.

 

[diamondace]

i didnt understand who you are here. are you hero? if yes there is not much you can do here. preflop raise could be a bit more than 1200. then maybe he is out or you go allin after flop and then he is out too maybe but im not sure. you played it slowly and it seemed like that you will be rewarded after river but he had straight flush. unlucky. happens.

 

[tenbob]

Leave out the results next time

I just get it all in on the flop if possible. Getting it in on the river is terrible, do you see why (ignoring results) ?

 

[crazyfool]

Looks like you were doomed here after that flop. I would have bet for sure, but I think the results would be the same. Pretty terrible river.

 

[silverfox432]

Yeah.... I knew I played it wrong just wanted you guys to confirm

Thanks

 

[BillHall]

Not such terrible play really Fox...

...a one outer for your opponent, right? Didn't the guy fill a gut shot strt flush draw on ya on the river? And how many of us could have folded that hand after your opponent goes all in and you have, what, two-thirds of your stack already in the pot? That would have been a SICK fold.

With respect to your play earlier in the hand, well, I don't think that it was all that bad either mainly because you had read it right all along...weren't you ahead the whole way? What's wrong with slow playing alittle bit if you are way ahead the whole way? A one outer ain't gonna bite ya that often...so don't be so hard on yourself. Really, what were you supposed to do, bet 1,200 after the flop? Maybe, but if you ask me, I don't think, based on your opponents play after the flop, that he would have folded, so, you did ok.

 

[Jillychemung]

What's wrong with slow playing alittle bit if you are way ahead the whole way

Why give opponents a free card on such an obvious draw? How do you eliminate a FD from opponents hand range to allow the slow play? Bet the pot on that flop. Give your opponents the chance to make a bad play. How did the opponent make a bad play by checking his FD and getting a free turn card?

 

[Inscore77]

No real read on villian as just changed tables

The bubbles burst I'm 26th out of 99

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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $2.20 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 50 ante) NL Hold'em Tourney, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG: 1,435 (3.6 bb)
UTG+1: 9,715 (24.3 bb)
BTN: 15,985 (40 bb)
SB: 21,406 (53.5 bb)
BB: 4,700 (11.8 bb)
MP1: 8,370 (20.9 bb)
Hero (MP2): 12,885 (32.2 bb)
MP3: 1,830 (4.6 bb)
CO: 5,745 (14.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP2 with K

K

MP1 folds, Hero raises to 1,200, 4 folds, BTN calls 1,200, 2 folds

Flop: (3,450) 9

Q

5

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (3,450) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets 2,000, BTN calls 2,000

River: (7,450) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets 4,400, BTN raises to 12,735 and is all-in, Hero calls 5,235 and is all-in

Results: 26,720 pot
BTN showed 7

8

(a straight flush, Five to Nine) and won 26,720 (13,835 net)
Hero showed K

K

(a flush, King high) and lost (-12,885 net)

Ya, I'm betting the entire pot in this situation on the flop. I would check/call turn, and bet river again, maybe shove dependent on turn action. Nasty hand, please do not show results as well

 

[Inscore77]

...a one outer for your opponent, right? Didn't the guy fill a gut shot strt flush draw on ya on the river? And how many of us could have folded that hand after your opponent goes all in and you have, what, two-thirds of your stack already in the pot? That would have been a SICK fold.

With respect to your play earlier in the hand, well, I don't think that it was all that bad either mainly because you had read it right all along...weren't you ahead the whole way? What's wrong with slow playing alittle bit if you are way ahead the whole way? A one outer ain't gonna bite ya that often...so don't be so hard on yourself. Really, what were you supposed to do, bet 1,200 after the flop? Maybe, but if you ask me, I don't think, based on your opponents play after the flop, that he would have folded, so, you did ok.

It's not about the rivered straight flush. Yes, we caught on the river, but its about letting him catch the flush in the first place. Thats why I dont like giving free cards on boards such as his flop. You're being result oriented when you talk about our rivered flush and straight flush, chances are this is not going to happen

 

[GoBilliards]

obv u gota pot bet the flop. at least the pot. Or you can wait for him to catch up then start betting LOL, sad fact is at this level he prolly calls with the straight flush draw. He is almost flipping after the flop so its not an extemely bad call for him. slow playing KK is nuts esp with this flop

 

[RJB-7]

1 mistake and thats not betting the flop, i know you think that no A means i am massive favourite so just check. But with any flush or straight draws on board you have to bet at least 2/3 of the pot. Never give your opponents a free card, doesnt matter how strong your hand is, free cards lead to 1 thing and thats suckouts. Other than that it was quite a cooler, pretty unlucky.

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

I'm thinking that if the villain called his 4xBB with suited connectors he won't be laying it down easily when he hits his draw on the flop. The only play for you should have been to hit the flop hard. Checking isn't the way to go. He is in the same position as you with the bubble coming up. If he wants to risk his tournament life on a flush draw then so be it. Overall you will be ahead. Look at it this way. If you went all in on the flop do you think he would have called?