QJs vs potential steal; $16 turbo STT

[ChuckTs]

pokerstars GAME #11107932222: TOURNAMENT #56339366, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL V (75/150) - 2007/07/24 - 10:09:32 (ET)
Table '56339366 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: sebas117 (3200 in chips)
Seat 2: Guty (1270 in chips)
Seat 3: ChuckTs (1765 in chips)
Seat 5: Bhappens (1960 in chips)
Seat 6: queuezero (855 in chips)
Seat 7: hawkeyedg (1455 in chips)
Seat 8: MrSnowman89 (2995 in chips)
Guty: posts small blind 75
ChuckTs: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs Q♠ J♠
Bhappens: folds
queuezero: folds
hawkeyedg: folds
MrSnowman89: folds
sebas117: folds
Guty: raises 1120 to 1270 and is all-in
ChuckTs: ...

Villain has been on the same 3 or 4 tables I've been multitabling, and has been a little more aggressive than the average player. I've been TAG.

Is there any argument for a call here? How about one big enough to actually call?

 

[Irexes]

I can't see it, even if the guy has pushed half a dozen hands in a row you are really gambling with a call. Any pair, any ace, any king and you are behind and you are only dominating Qx and Jx. I'm a big fan of only calling all ins when there's a chance (albeit sometimes a small one) of dominating coupled with a very small chance of being dominated.

Sorry Chuck can't make it work for me. That said my Turbo STT experience is zero so I may be misreading it

 

[skoldpadda]

You're ahead of his range of ATC, but I like a fold here. Why risk it when you will have enough fold equity for a solid push later. If he limps, I can support moving in, but not without the first in vigorish.

 

[ChuckTs]

k the suspense got to me [/sarcasm]

I'm actually the one who's doing the pushing, he's in the BB, and he ultimately called with his QJs. And quickly. He's actually a pretty solid player - though his reasoning in this hand doesn't show it.

I think my 'above-average' aggression must have been an understatement. I was on a card rush (on the four tables), but really was still not playing even close to LAG. There's absolutely no reason to call here.

First-in vig is the name of the game as skold said, and calling is just terrible. Hope villain doesn't see this post and learn from it

POKERSTARS GAME #11107932222: TOURNAMENT #56339366, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL V (75/150) - 2007/07/24 - 10:09:32 (ET)
Table '56339366 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: sebas117 (3200 in chips)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (1270 in chips)
Seat 3: Guty (1765 in chips)
Seat 5: Bhappens (1960 in chips)
Seat 6: queuezero (855 in chips)
Seat 7: hawkeyedg (1455 in chips)
Seat 8: MrSnowman89 (2995 in chips)
ChuckTs: posts small blind 75
Guty: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [2s As]
Bhappens: folds
queuezero: folds
hawkeyedg: folds
MrSnowman89: folds
sebas117: folds
ChuckTs: raises 1120 to 1270 and is all-in
Guty: calls 1120
*** FLOP *** [7h 4h 9c]
*** TURN *** [7h 4h 9c] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [7h 4h 9c Qd] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [2s As] (high card Ace)
Guty: shows [Js Qs] (a pair of Queens)
Guty collected 2540 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2540 | Rake 0
Board [7h 4h 9c Qd 8h]
Seat 1: sebas117 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ChuckTs (small blind) showed [2s As] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: Guty (big blind) showed [Js Qs] and won (2540) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Bhappens folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: queuezero folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hawkeyedg folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: MrSnowman89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

It's kind of funny, sometimes a seemingly small steal like this hand turns out to be the big turning point to send you into contention for 1st. Short stacks in turbos ain't nuttin. Well, in times aside from this one at least.

ok, super tired post-workday rant over.

 

[Irexes]

Heh heh, you had me worried there Chuck

 

[ChuckTs]

I'm nuts, but not that nuts...

 

[t1riel]

I'm nuts, but not that nuts...

Going all in with A, 2 suited isn't nuts?

 

[ChuckTs]

8 or 9 BBs, only one player to go through, non-maniacal image - I'll push here most of the time Tim.

I know it may look crazy, but shortstacked play is all about first-in pushes. I'll actually push with a lot less here.

Have you read the HoH series? Should help tremendously with explaining situations like this.

 

[vanquish]

Going all in with A, 2 suited isn't nuts?

Not when you're the one shoving.