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[Tammy]

Ok. Go ahead. Let me have it!

pokerstars Game #4912590532: Tournament #24201346, $23+$2 Hold'em No
Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/05/12 - 17:30:50 (ET)
Table '24201346 3' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: beardyian (1120 in chips)
Seat 2: Mr Pear (1590 in chips)
Seat 4: Qhr1s (1675 in chips)
Seat 5: juiceeQ (1875 in chips)
Seat 7: MrSticker66 (1110 in chips)
Seat 8: tenbob (2065 in chips)
Seat 9: JesusLederer (1065 in chips)
MrSticker66: posts small blind 25
tenbob: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to juiceeQ [Td Qd]
beardyian said, ")"
JesusLederer: folds
beardyian: folds
Mr Pear: folds
Qhr1s: folds
juiceeQ said, "<---Queen of Smart-assville"
juiceeQ: calls 50
MrSticker66: calls 25
tenbob: checks
*** FLOP *** [9d] [Qh] [3d]
MrSticker66: checks
tenbob: bets 100
juiceeQ: calls 100
MrSticker66: folds
*** TURN *** [9d] [Qh] [3d] [5s]
tenbob: bets 150
juiceeQ: raises 250 to 400
tenbob said, "hmmm"
tenbob said, "$15 for a push"
tenbob said, "?????"
tenbob: raises 1515 to 1915 and is all-in

What would you do? Help a girl out, please. :girl:

 

[ChuckTs]

hmm...well first off i'd either fold or raise it preflop. QT is not a big enough hand to just cold call here.
You want to represent a big hand, and get rid of the weak ones from the blinds.
As for the postflop play...i'd have raised the flop to get a better idea of what TB's holding.
I have a feeling he's got a 2pr maybe from the flop...
that's why i like a pf raise here..
i think i might fold, but i don't have any info on how he's been playin either

 

[spore]

I'd fold in this situation. The table talk would indicate to me he's trying to distract you into making a bad call.

As for the PF play. I actually like limping in w/ QT. Basically because unless you hit the flush, straight, or 2pair.. it's probably not gonna be the best hand. HOWEVER, with only the blinds left after you... I think I would have raised it.

Post-flop play.. I would say either raise or fold there. Unless he's the kind of player that likes to bully the table... in that case just call him down and let him cut his own throat.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

I hate situations like this, and it's one of the big reasons I try and avoid limping with marginal hands in the early stages of tourneys.

Raising preflop means that either (a) you'll take the small pot there and then, not a bad result, or (b) if you get deeply involved in a hand you have a better idea of tb's range. As things stand, you have too little information to be calling here. I don't think tb would be pushing with much that you're ahead of - yeah there's a $15 bounty on you but first place paid over $300, so people shuld know where there priorities lie (some invariably don't, but I'd hope tb would be sensible enough to realise this and play accordingly).

Alternatively, I don't think you lose much by folding this preflop either.

 

[t1riel]

Well, since you didn't raise pre-flop, it's every likely tenbob has two pair since he saw the flop for free. Tenbob probably has 9, 3 or Q, 3. I would fold. Granted, you have a flush draw but it's not worth calling to chase since it's only Queen high. I would have raised preflop and make a bigger bet after the flop. Saty agressive until there is a big chance you are beat.

 

[robwhufc]

No brainer fold. No brainer!

(i know he beat you!).
The "hmmmm $15 ......" comment is the give away for me. If he had kept quite maybe i'd have called. But in reality, the fact that you've got a weak hand and Tenbob's a strong player who doesn't need to bluff you here, i'd grudgingly fold.

 

[Tammy]

Yeah, and the stupid part is, I knew I should have folded!! What the hell is that?!? I almost reraised him after the flop, and I may have had a chance at the pot then, if I would have just went with my gut. But bottomline is, I played that hand terribly and I know it.

As a disclaimer, however, I was holding a cute little baby in my lap who was desperately trying to wrestle the mouse away from me at the time... So that will be my excuse--I was just a bit distracted!

Oh, yeah...I did lose (duh, I know. ). I won't bother with the rest of the HH. I called, river--blank, sayonara juiceeQ!

Oh, what was tenbob's hand you say? 3/5os.

 

[tenbob]

JQ's hand here was pretty obvious to me at this stage. In the BB with the 53o, no p/f raise by JQ and i click middle pair on the flop. The 100 bet was more for some information, I would have folded to a raise.
Things got a LOT better for me on the turn card, stronger bet out this time, 2 pair is hand that i will play very strongly. This time JQ re-raised, so i figured her for maybe a poorly played AQ, i figured she had me on the flush draw and was attempting to take me off it, so i play back.

bluffing at this stage of a tournament is not something that i do, maybe Tammy knew that, but she certainly had to know she was behind at this stage.

 

[Tammy]

Bluffing at this stage of a tournament is not something that i do, maybe Tammy knew that, but she certainly had to know she was behind at this stage.

And there's the crux of it, right there. Yes, I was distracted during the hand, but it was no excuse for my poor play and not listening to my instinct, etc, and making a poor call when I knew I should have folded. This sometimes can be a big problem for me--my stubborness to not let a hand go when I know I should run the other direction! But I take it all with a grain of salt, and use it to help me later--"Remember that dumb call/play you made? CAREFUL!"

Anyway, that was my donk moment of the day.

 

[colin_147]

I dont see a problem with a call in this position (preflop). Blinds are pretty low and you wanna be building a pot.

Its very difficult to call, even though you have top pair with a fair kicker

Fold for me

 

[Tammy]

There are two places (well, make that three) places I made mistakes here:

1. On the button, I should have raised PF. By not doing so, I gave TB a free look here.

2. Post-Flop--raise TB's bet. I'm pretty sure that would have pushed him off the hand.

3. Calling the all-in. At the early(ish) stage of the tourney, I should have let that one go and wait for a better spot. I knew at that point I was beat, but was taking into account my flush draw as well. Total passive/loose play this hand, which is usually not like me. uke: