PLO - 5 from money weak AAxx vs steal.

[Munchrs]

pokerstars Game #22279517502: Tournament #120440731, $5.00+$0.50 Omaha Pot Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2008/11/23 3:42:59 CET [2008/11/22 21:42:59 ET]
Table '120440731 18' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: benwa2069 (26780 in chips)
Seat 2: Pokerplayer (3160 in chips)
Seat 3: thegrinder44 (4840 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: formalberto (9520 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: Il Becchino (3665 in chips)
Seat 7: tmewaster1 (7715 in chips)
Seat 8: Munchers94 (4680 in chips)
Seat 9: Supersebi (32625 in chips)
Pokerplayer: posts small blind 200
thegrinder44: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Munchers94 [Qc 7h As Ad]
formalberto: folds
Il Becchino: folds
tmewaster1: raises 800 to 1200
Munchers94: ??

BB is sitting out. tmewaster1 is very active p/f. only 5 places till the money, are our AA good enough to re-pot here?

 

[blankoblanco]

yep, re-pot and get it in. would be nice to be suited in something, but you can't exactly pick and choose. active player + the big blind is sitting out. pretty easy for him to show up with a bare KK here (gets notoriously overvalued), if not even that good. in the event that he has a better AA, still a good chance you chop. you need some chips to make a run, go for it.

 

[Munchrs]

yep, re-pot and get it in. would be nice to be suited in something, but you can't exactly pick and choose. active player + the big blind is sitting out. pretty easy for him to show up with a bare KK here (gets notoriously overvalued), if not even that good. in the event that he has a better AA, still a good chance you chop. you need some chips to make a run, go for it.

yea my thinking after the tourney that i bubbled...

 

[jmasterrich]

yea my thinking after the tourney that i bubbled...

Ouch... that does suck but you did make the right play (altho losin 5 beans sucks when your that close) , short on chips I think this is definitely a hand to shove with every time him being loose is just makes it even more sure of a repot because it makes it more unlikely he will flip the better AAxx.

 

[young hova]

Without question you reraise pot max here. 5 places from the money and your M is less than 4 and technically if people were literally blinded off your not even going to make the money. You really have no choice here, at some point your going to have to shove just to have a chance at the money and statistically preflop this is the best hand you can ask for.

 

[nolimitjunki]

I disagree with most of you guys. No Ace is suited, No flush possibilities. Not even any type of wrap if high cards flop. We need a very very specific flop to win it, if he calls and has 4 suited connectors. We are a tiny tiny tiny favorite. I would fold. Do the raising myself and put someone else to the decision. Or take the flop and fold if you miss completely. Only one pair aces, not the nuts in omaha.

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

PF you hand is the best you can have. But since PLO is a drawing game also, what else do you have? No flush draws. You have an outside str8 draw. You say the villain has been very active PF. Usually means he is playing very drawy hands. You're not gonna last much longer with the blinds. Bubble's coming up. Looks to me for a perfect time for him to steal some blinds. But this is also a perfect time for you to pick up much needed chips. If you shove against him and he is on draws, he most likely will fold. He also is near the bubble and doesn't want to risk his stack.

 

[blankoblanco]

We need a very very specific flop to win it, if he calls and has 4 suited connectors.

this makes no sense. we don't need a "very very specific" flop any more than he does. we're about 50/50 against even the best suited connecting hands. combine that with the fact that there are 2 players sitting out (including the BB), making it practically 6 handed, the opener being very active -- meaning we may have some small bit of fold equity and his range is weak -- and us sitting with 11 BBs, and folding would be criminal. calling for 25% of your stack to fold unless you "hit" with a hand that's probably best right now anyway and having very little idea of what cards he's holding is also a bad idea

if this isn't good enough for you, you really shouldn't play PLO tournaments, because you can't wait for spots a whole lot better than this when shortstacked

 

[Munchrs]

PF you hand is the best you can have. But since PLO is a drawing game also, what else do you have? No flush draws. You have an outside str8 draw. You say the villain has been very active PF. Usually means he is playing very drawy hands. You're not gonna last much longer with the blinds. Bubble's coming up. Looks to me for a perfect time for him to steal some blinds. But this is also a perfect time for you to pick up much needed chips. If you shove against him and he is on draws, he most likely will fold. He also is near the bubble and doesn't want to risk his stack.

i like the way you have reasoned this, makes alot of sense.

 

[young hova]

if this isn't good enough for you, you really shouldn't play PLO tournaments, because you can't wait for spots a whole lot better than this when shortstacked

Nuff said