Please Do Tell

[LuckyShark777]

(14260666), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:26:36 ET - 2007/03/03
Seat 1: LuckyShark777 (1,340)
Seat 2: jackblack73 (1,530)
Seat 3: hors222 (1,380)
Seat 4: freefallin74 (1,515)
Seat 5: Sgtjail12 (4,580)
Seat 6: smoothcall21 (980)
Seat 7: Brandon Sexton (1,180)
Seat 8: wildcat813 (995)
LuckyShark777 posts the small blind of 20
jackblack73 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LuckyShark777 [Qc Qh]
hors222 calls 40
freefallin74 folds
Sgtjail12 calls 40
smoothcall21 folds
Brandon Sexton folds
wildcat813 calls 40
LuckyShark777 raises to 300
jackblack73 folds
hors222 folds
Sgtjail12 calls 260
wildcat813 calls 260
*** FLOP *** [7s 5c 6h]
LuckyShark777 bets 980
Sgtjail12 raises to 1,960
wildcat813 folds
LuckyShark777 calls 60, and is all in
Sgtjail12 shows [Jc 8h]
LuckyShark777 shows [Qc Qh]
Uncalled bet of 920 returned to Sgtjail12
*** TURN *** [7s 5c 6h] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [7s 5c 6h 4d] [9h]
Sgtjail12 shows a straight, Nine high
LuckyShark777 shows a pair of Queens
Sgtjail12 wins the pot (3,060) with a straight, Nine high
LuckyShark777 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,060 | Rake 0
Board: [7s 5c 6h 4d 9h]
Seat 1: LuckyShark777 (small blind) showed [Qc Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: jackblack73 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: hors222 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: freefallin74 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Sgtjail12 showed [Jc 8h] and won (3,060) with a straight, Nine high
Seat 6: smoothcall21 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Brandon Sexton didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: wildcat813 (button) folded on the Flop

Seems like every time i post a beat on here someone has to say what i did wrong! Can someone please tell me what i did wrong on this hand?

 

[mrsnake3695]

Let be the first to say, nothing.

 

[ChuckTs]

Seems like every time i post a beat on here someone has to say what i did wrong! Can someone please tell me what i did wrong on this hand?

Perhaps because you may be doing a lot wrong?

I gotta agree with mrsnake here, though - you played this fine. Chalk it up to bad luck and just be happy that there are fish like this J8 player.

 

[blankoblanco]

Out of curiosity, Shark, what buy-in SnG is this/do you normally play? And you did nothing wrong here, and your opponent made a couple really boneheaded plays and got lucky for it. It happens. A lot.

 

[LuckyShark777]

i play the $11 sng's

 

[LuckyShark777]

$11 SNG again, someone please explain this one to me?


Full Tilt Poker Game #1911599033: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (14277686), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 12:14:46 ET - 2007/03/03
Seat 1: randi1983 (2,345)
Seat 2: DrillSteel (2,200)
Seat 5: jasnlrn (1,270)
Seat 6: moneyfromdad (2,440)
Seat 7: tugcapt1 (2,680)
Seat 9: LuckyShark777 (2,565)
LuckyShark777 posts the small blind of 40
randi1983 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to LuckyShark777 [Jh Kh]
DrillSteel folds
jasnlrn raises to 160
moneyfromdad folds
tugcapt1 folds
LuckyShark777 calls 120
randi1983 calls 80
*** FLOP *** [Js 7d Ks]
LuckyShark777 bets 480
randi1983 folds
jasnlrn raises to 1,110, and is all in
LuckyShark777 calls 630
jasnlrn shows [3s Ts]
LuckyShark777 shows [Jh Kh]
*** TURN *** [Js 7d Ks] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [Js 7d Ks 6h] [As]
jasnlrn shows a flush, Ace high
LuckyShark777 shows two pair, Kings and Jacks
jasnlrn wins the pot (2,700) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,700 | Rake 0
Board: [Js 7d Ks 6h As]
Seat 1: randi1983 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: DrillSteel didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: jasnlrn showed [3s Ts] and won (2,700) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: moneyfromdad didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: tugcapt1 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: LuckyShark777 (small blind) showed [Jh Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks

 

[p215j]

QQ - Ok. Your raise was perfect. Flop was terrible for your ladies, hell for any large pocket pair. Your continuation bet should have been around 300-350 with that flop. In this case it also serves as a probe bet as well. If you get raised, with that flop, you’ve already lost, just fold. It’s tough, but live for another hand. You still would have around $700. or so to continue on playing solidly, which is fine with 20/40 blinds. In this hand when the flop hit you knew you were indeed beat & your continuation bet shows just that, unfortunately it pot committed you with only $60 (???) left. Although your donk opponent still needed help, most players would have already had you beat. Just fold.

Last hand was typical internet donkey luck chasing flushes & hitting. To top it off, he raised preflop with that garbage because "it was suited."

 

[blankoblanco]

QQ - Ok. Your raise was perfect. Flop was terrible for your ladies, hell for any large pocket pair. Your continuation bet should have been around 300-350 with that flop. In this case it also serves as a probe bet as well. If you get raised, with that flop, you’ve already lost, just fold.

That's terrible. There's ~1000 in the pot and we've got ~1000 left, with 2 others in. It's an easy shove on flop. If we bet 300-350 and get shoved into, we are beyond committed... trivially easy call. In $11 SnGs we'll often get shoved into by 44, A7, JJ, TT, 99, 88, 87, I could go on. Betting 350 (or any amount) here and folding to a shove is just so incredibly bad.

 

[Welly]

wildcat813 calls 40
LuckyShark777 raises to 300
jackblack73 folds
hors222 folds
Sgtjail12 calls 260
wildcat813 calls 260
*** FLOP *** [7s 5c 6h]
LuckyShark777 bets 980

To be honest I'd have to disagree with the majority of the above posters (QQ hand). The blinds are 20/40 and you have committed 1280 chips on nothing but an overpair. The first "information" you retrieve is when you have already commited 95.5% of your stack.

Play your poker more in-amongst the cards would be my advice. Place much much less weight on starting hands and much more weight on what "hand" you have when (at least) the flop is dealt, preferably an even fuller board.

 

[p215j]

combuboom I strongly disagree, if someone reraises him after a continuation bet of $300, he’s far from pot committed, in fact will have more that half the stack he started {$1,340} with $740. Of course he’s pot committed if he beats $980. leaving himself only $60. That bet screams desperation. Tons of players call with suited or gapped connectors in this spot and he can be 90% certain that he’s beaten if he’s reraised here. Obviously a read on his opponent helps immeasurably. Seems his read told him that Sgtjail12 indeed had him in beaten or terrible shape. Why else would he bet so big leaving himself only $60? Sgtjail12 was the big stack with 3 x’s the chips as the next biggest stack and could definitely call a raise of $300. to take a chance on suited connectors or the like with little or no damage. Your asking him to marry a big pocket pair with an incredibly unlucky flop - 7s 5c 6h, with no part of a draw in sight. That’s terrible advice!

It’s definitely a tough lay down, but poker is filled with tough lay downs.