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Suckout Queen
I know where I made my mistake but I'm going to post some hands here for others to critique. Maybe you have some other insights to offer.

pokerstars Game #6904937093: Tournament #34145693, Freeroll Hold'em No
Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/11/05 - 14:02:50 (ET)
Table '34145693 251' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: The1Messiah (1420 in chips)
Seat 2: PHCSC (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: livebydariva (1490 in chips)
Seat 4: klitkat (1520 in chips)
Seat 5: Reallate1 (1580 in chips)
Seat 6: LB BRYANT (1480 in chips)
Seat 7: $peed38 (1730 in chips)
Seat 8: HeatherM1025 (1280 in chips)
Seat 9: squash84 (1500 in chips) is sitting out
LB BRYANT: posts small blind 10
$peed38: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to klitkat [Kc Qd]
HeatherM1025: calls 20
squash84: folds
The1Messiah: folds
PHCSC: folds
livebydariva: raises 60 to 80
klitkat: calls 80
Reallate1: folds
LB BRYANT: folds
$peed38: calls 60
HeatherM1025: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [7s Kh Kd]
$peed38: checks
HeatherM1025: checks
livebydariva: bets 140
klitkat: raises 140 to 280
$peed38: folds
HeatherM1025: calls 280
livebydariva: folds
*** TURN *** [7s Kh Kd] [Jd]
HeatherM1025: checks
klitkat: bets 160
HeatherM1025: calls 160
*** RIVER *** [7s Kh Kd Jd] [2h]
HeatherM1025: bets 560
klitkat: raises 440 to 1000 and is all-in
HeatherM1025: calls 200 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
klitkat: shows [Kc Qd] (three of a kind, Kings)
HeatherM1025: shows [Ks 2s] (a full house, Kings full of Deuces)
HeatherM1025 collected 2870 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2870 | Rake 0
Board [7s Kh Kd Jd 2h]
Seat 1: The1Messiah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: PHCSC folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: livebydariva folded on the Flop
Seat 4: klitkat showed [Kc Qd] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 5: Reallate1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: LB BRYANT (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: $peed38 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: HeatherM1025 showed [Ks 2s] and won (2870) with a full house,
Kings full of Deuces
Seat 9: squash84 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


KQo is a trouble hand and it wouldn't be wrong to fold this to the raise pre-flop.

I'd probably bet a bit more strongly on the turn, mainly for value.

As played, on the river it would be a tough laydown. I don't see how you could put your opponent on some junk like K2. You didn't play it too badly... I'd call rather than raise the river though.
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

Every street is horrible.

Fold preflop.

Raise more on flop.

Push turn.

As played, call river.


Suckout Queen
Beginning of tourney. Amount of call PF not out of line for position and hand. But my mistake was the call by villian of 600 chips. I backed down there to limit chip loss and short circuited with the all in bet. I usually don't go all in unless I know I have it. Especially at the beginning of tourney.
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

Beginning of tourney = low blinds = no need to get involved in a raised pot with KQo. Three very likely scenarios are you missing and having to check-fold, you hitting TP but facing big action which suggests you're outkicked or worse and thus being faced with a tricky decision for a lot of your chips, or you hitting and everyone else missing and you winning a small pot.

There's absolutely no need to get involved with KQo early on. If it's folded to you in MP/LP, raising is reasonable, but calling a raise in the same position is generally not (read up on the Gap Concept ^^).


Yup, I'm in the fold preflop to raise at this point of a SnG, AK and AQ are too dangerous.

In LP I'll call and hope for something pretty on the flop and leave it otherwise.

Once you call and the KK hits, your chips are going in one way or another.
Four Dogs

Four Dogs

Karen, I think you played it just fine. I have no problem with the call withy KQ in late position. The only thing I can say is that with 2 callers on the turn, that bet was a little weak but I don't think it changed the outcome of the hand. Heather was going to call nomatter what. This was a freeroll after all. So you got busted by a FH. No shame in that.

KlitKat? PLEASE PM me the story behind that!!!:listen:


Sorry, it's an MTT, thought it was a SnG.

If it's an MTT then I'm totally on board with the call.


PF Call is a little loose, but not terrible with position.

Flop bet is a little small, even though not terrible, you want callers here. And your miles ahead of most likely holdings. Getting the donks to fold here is a disaster. You could argue the case of cold calling.

River call is also fine. Bad beat it happens.