Overplaying top pair/top kicker



Rock Star
Silver Level
Jun 16, 2006
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One hand internet donkeys greatly overvalue, and lose a lot of chips/cash on is top pair/top kicker....especially when all the signs are screaming "You're beat!" Here's a hand from a $15+1 Turbo at Stars the other day that illustrates that:

pokerstars Game #5295538354: Tournament #26685307, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/06/18 - 21:55:05 (ET)
Table '26685307 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: vanbizzo (1485 in chips)
Seat 2: shawn5 (1460 in chips)
Seat 3: jonnybsting (1210 in chips)
Seat 4: Diso8 (1735 in chips)
Seat 5: USANAMACK (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: BKrywko1 (1840 in chips)
Seat 8: Money007 (2845 in chips)
Seat 9: Olback (1455 in chips)
vanbizzo: posts small blind 15
shawn5: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BKrywko1 [4c 4s] - one of my favorite hands...been very good to me, historically
jonnybsting: calls 30
Diso8: folds
BKrywko1: calls 30 - Small pairs this early on, I like to see cheap flops, and play a no set/no bet, unless a good bluffing opportunity comes up.
Money007: calls 30
Olback: folds
vanbizzo: calls 15
shawn5: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c Kd 4h] - Bingo! Rainbow flop is what I'm looking for..hopefully no one saw flop with 5-3 or 5-7
vanbizzo: checks
shawn5: checks
jonnybsting: checks
BKrywko1: bets 60 -
Money007: raises 60 to 120 - The pussy min-raise here doesn't really scream anything....although I'm thinking TPTK...A-K or K-Q?
vanbizzo: folds
shawn5: folds
jonnybsting: folds
BKrywko1: raises 280 to 400 - I thought about calling here, but if my read is right, I'm going to double up here...so let's push it a little bit
Money007: raises 280 to 680 - Stupid min-raise again....now I'm positive it's an A-K hand here
BKrywko1: raises 1130 to 1810 and is all-in
Money007: calls 1130
*** TURN *** [6c Kd 4h] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [6c Kd 4h 6s] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BKrywko1: shows [4c 4s] (a full house, Fours full of Sixes)
Money007: shows [Ad Kh] (two pair, Kings and Sixes) - It's good to be right once in a while
BKrywko1 collected 3770 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3770 | Rake 0
Board [6c Kd 4h 6s 2c]
Seat 1: vanbizzo (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: shawn5 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: jonnybsting folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Diso8 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: USANAMACK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BKrywko1 showed [4c 4s] and won (3770) with a full house, Fours full of Sixes
Seat 8: Money007 showed [Ad Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 9: Olback (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Maybe played this too fast for some of you's liking here, but checking out sharkscope.com I found this player to be a major fish...and I was surely going to be able to get a ton of chips off him this hand once the flop came. TPTK is a solid hand in NLHE, but it certainly isn't the nuts...just be wary of the signs out there!
Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

Silver Level
Jul 12, 2005
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You commented nicely on everything, really. :)

All I have to add is a little bit of laughter at the preflop limp with AK (why do people do this with position on two preflop limpers?), and that with deep stacks and considering that it's an unraised pot preflop there is indeed no need for villain to go broke there with tptk (if he'd raised preflop it would be somewhat more understandable, as you don't generally expect 44/66 to call anything sizeable preflop in the early stages). I can see a case for just calling his flop raise considering the non draw-heavy board, but with a 'donk' read on villain I most likely play it as you did.
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Silver Level
May 20, 2005
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Wow, there isn't much to say since you commented on everything that I would probably have mentioned. I like the term you used, "the pussy mini-raise." LOL!:D Good Job on the hand!


Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
May 25, 2005
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The last time i was in a raise, re-raise, re-reraise, All-in battle both me and opponent had AA. You've got to narrow your opponents range of hands down severely when they reraise - surely he could only have put you on KK,66,44,AA, AK or KQ/KJ/KT? The last 3 shouldn't re reraise so he's either going to split or lose. I'd be surprised if he considered your holding once during the whole hand!