Over valued AK or proper play

jasondavies

jasondavies

Guest
DID HE OVERVALUE AK OR WAS HIS PLAY PRETTY STANDARD, I MEAN WE ARE ON LEVEL 2 12 MINUTES INTO A TOURNEY, I HAVE PLAYED 1 HAND TILL NOW AND LOST IT, NO READS ON HIM,

1) DID HE OVERVALUE AK?
2) WAS I FOOLISH TO RE RAISE ALL IN?

Hand Number: 400,418,017
Table Number: 5,603,104
Event Name: No Limit Holdem (#3584965)
Event Started: Friday January 26th 9:00:03 PM CST 2007 Event Type: real money Tournament Event Buy-In: $5+$0.50
Total Prize Pool: $205
Game: No Limit Hold 'em
Level II: 50/100 Blinds (25 Minimum Chip)
Average Stack: 12,424.24 (10,000 starting chips)
Remaining Players: 33 (41 started)
Seat 1 : SmokeStaxxx starts with 11,050
Seat 2 : Batchfan starts with 20,550
Seat 3 : bigdustycool starts with 14,325
Seat 5 : deputydoc starts with 1,450
Seat 6 : Jason_Davies starts with 7,625
Seat 7 : MJ8Ball1 starts with 6,975
Seat 8 : sweetman starts with 11,950
Seat 10 : Buster1968 starts with 7,825
Seat 10 : Buster1968 has the dealer button
>>>DEALING HOLE CARDS<<<
Jason_Davies dealt down [Qc] [Qd]
SmokeStaxxx posts the small blind 50
Batchfan posts the big blind 100
bigdustycool calls 100
deputydoc folds
Jason_Davies raises 175 to 275
MJ8Ball1 folds
sweetman calls 275
Buster1968 calls 275
SmokeStaxxx calls 225
Batchfan calls 175
bigdustycool raises 1,650 to 1,925
Jason_Davies raises 5,700 to 7,625 and is all-in sweetman folds
Buster1968 folds
SmokeStaxxx folds
Batchfan folds
bigdustycool calls 5,700
Jason_Davies cards were [Qc] [Qd]
bigdustycool cards were [As] [Kd]
>>>DEALING FLOP<<< [9c] [Qs] [5h]
>>>DEALING TURN<<< [Ks]
>>>DEALING RIVER<<< [3s]
Jason_Davies wins 16,350 with three of a kind, queens
>>>SUMMARY<<<
Hand Ended: Friday January 26th 9:22:06 PM CST 2007 Total Pot: 16,350
Board: [9c] [Qs] [5h] [Ks] [3s]
Seat 1 : SmokeStaxxx (small blind) lost 275, folded pre-flop
Seat 2 : Batchfan (big blind) lost 275, folded pre-flop
Seat 3 : bigdustycool lost 7,625, showed hand [As] [Kd]
Seat 5 : deputydoc did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 6 : Jason_Davies bet 7,625, won 16,350, net +8,725, showed hand [Qc] [Qd]
Seat 7 : MJ8Ball1 did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 8 : sweetman lost 275, folded pre-flop
Seat 10 : Buster1968 (button) lost 275, folded pre-flop
 
Welly

Welly

Guest
Neither of you are under any pressure to play pre-flop poker at this stage.

You could argue that Villain, by calling, is probably slightly more in the wrong, as you have the benefit of being the aggressor and the marginally better hand.

However with his stack dominance it cant really be considered as a weak call.

Coinflips without dominating stack arent really something to seek at this stage in a tourney.
 
Bombjack

Bombjack

Legend
I probably wouldn't play AK this way out of position. Fine if you're in late position - definitely go ahead and re-raise, although I suppose it's not terrible here.

From your point of view, you probably want to see the flop rather than re-raising all-in. There's a good chance he has AA or KK with a play like this, and if there's an Ace or King on the flop and he bets, you can save yourself a load of chips, because you're just hoping he made this play with AK. Also, you probably don't need me to point out there was a good chance you were staking your tournament life on a coinflip.

From his point of view, calling your push is wrong as he knows he's slightly worse than coinflipping at best. Still, with a big stack he can afford to make marginal calls when there's already a load of money in the pot.
 
zebranky

zebranky

Rock Star
overvalued

I think you played it right, and it worked out okay for you.

I would read his massive re-raise as "I've got a middle pair, please don't call me." Considering the amount of his raise, an all-in on your part isn't a bad play. AKos he should have folded, as your bet could easily be AA or KK too.

I still maintain with QQ being all-in isn't bad. except for the two overpairs, you're ahead of every other hand possible, and I'm typically okay with being all-in like that. Yes, you do face coinflip hands sometimes - but especially early in low-value tournaments, you're more often going to be facing lower pairs and AQ/AJ/A10 hands also willing to go all in on a chance.
 
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