Lost the least i could?

[mischman]

I know my flop play was horrible...or was it?


pokerstars Game #7943497973: Tournament #40592225, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/01/14 - 23:19:46 (ET)
Table '40592225 20' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: trevorj2us (1520 in chips)
Seat 2: USSB! (1580 in chips)
Seat 3: Gimmeychips (930 in chips)
Seat 4: ludy65 (1120 in chips)
Seat 5: 1lazyeye (2680 in chips)
Seat 6: mischman (1780 in chips)
Seat 7: v3xi (970 in chips)
Seat 8: Sky_Devian (1280 in chips)
Seat 9: flabergast (1640 in chips)
1lazyeye: posts small blind 10
mischman: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mischman [7d Ad]
v3xi: folds
Sky_Devian: calls 20
flabergast: folds
trevorj2us: folds
USSB!: calls 20
Gimmeychips: calls 20
ludy65: calls 20
1lazyeye: calls 10
mischman: checks
*** FLOP *** [As 3s Ac]
1lazyeye: checks
mischman: bets 60
Sky_Devian: raises 60 to 120
USSB!: folds
Gimmeychips: folds
ludy65: folds
1lazyeye: folds
mischman: raises 60 to 180
Sky_Devian: calls 60
*** TURN *** [As 3s Ac] [Qs]
mischman: checks
Sky_Devian: checks
*** RIVER *** [As 3s Ac Qs] [9h]
mischman: bets 60
Sky_Devian: raises 60 to 120
mischman: calls 60
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sky_Devian: shows [Ah Td] (three of a kind, Aces)
mischman: shows [7d Ad] (three of a kind, Aces - lower kicker)
Sky_Devian collected 720 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 720 | Rake 0
Board [As 3s Ac Qs 9h]
Seat 1: trevorj2us folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: USSB! folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Gimmeychips folded on the Flop
Seat 4: ludy65 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: 1lazyeye (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: mischman (big blind) showed [7d Ad] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 7: v3xi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Sky_Devian showed [Ah Td] and won (720) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 9: flabergast folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[Dingodaddy23]

lol.... not quite sure who played it worse. your min-3bet on the flop or his check behind the turn... or your 60 chip river bet that was min-raised by him........ damn 4.40's are juicy, lol

 

[blankoblanco]

WTF, THIS IS NOT LIMIT

 

[Irexes]

The min reraise on the flop probably confused him. It confused me and it might have killed action if you were ahead.

I think you did well to lose as few chips as you did.

I too checked it wasn't limit though

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

I know my flop play was horrible...or was it?


PokerStars Game #7943497973: Tournament #40592225, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/01/14 - 23:19:46 (ET)
Table '40592225 20' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: trevorj2us (1520 in chips)
Seat 2: USSB! (1580 in chips)
Seat 3: Gimmeychips (930 in chips)
Seat 4: ludy65 (1120 in chips)
Seat 5: 1lazyeye (2680 in chips)
Seat 6: mischman (1780 in chips)
Seat 7: v3xi (970 in chips)
Seat 8: Sky_Devian (1280 in chips)
Seat 9: flabergast (1640 in chips)
1lazyeye: posts small blind 10
mischman: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mischman [7d Ad]
v3xi: folds
Sky_Devian: calls 20
flabergast: folds
trevorj2us: folds
USSB!: calls 20
Gimmeychips: calls 20
ludy65: calls 20
1lazyeye: calls 10
mischman: checks
*** FLOP *** [As 3s Ac]
1lazyeye: checks
mischman: bets 60
Sky_Devian: raises 60 to 120
USSB!: folds
Gimmeychips: folds
ludy65: folds
1lazyeye: folds
mischman: raises 60 to 180
Sky_Devian: calls 60
*** TURN *** [As 3s Ac] Q♠
mischman: checks
Sky_Devian: checks
*** RIVER *** [As 3s Ac Qs] 9♥
mischman: bets 60
Sky_Devian: raises 60 to 120
mischman: calls 60
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Sky_Devian: shows [Ah Td] (three of a kind, Aces)
mischman: shows [7d Ad] (three of a kind, Aces - lower kicker)
Sky_Devian collected 720 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 720 | Rake 0
Board [As 3s Ac Qs 9h]
Seat 1: trevorj2us folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: USSB! folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Gimmeychips folded on the Flop
Seat 4: ludy65 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: 1lazyeye (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: mischman (big blind) showed [7d Ad] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 7: v3xi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Sky_Devian showed [Ah Td] and won (720) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 9: flabergast folded before Flop (didn't bet)

the whole hand is just bizarre. i guess in this exact instance you lost as little as possible but i can't see playing the hand this way being a good move in the long run.

 

[ChuckTs]

Just to reiterate (sp?), yes you lost just about the least amount possible. Had you been playing no limit holdem, you'd have probably lost more. Hmmm some good coming out of minraising???

 

[zebranky]

Just to reiterate (sp?), yes you lost just about the least amount possible. Had you been playing no limit holdem, you'd have probably lost more. Hmmm some good coming out of minraising???

wow, minraising to death. I agree there wasn't much less you could lose (say thank you for the 3 card flush on the board), but I just don't see why you kept weak-bet or min-raising.
I think the 3-bet on the flop must be bigger, and the river was just obscene. There about 500 in the pot, and you're betting 60?

I would love to credit you with a great read on your opponent for keeping the pot low... but what was the reasoning on this hand?

 

[joosebuck]

why bet that river??

 

[zebranky]

why bet that river??

I half agree - you've either got to check this river (flushes and better kickers beat you - and possible FH's), or bet much bigger. My trouble with checking is that it leaves your opponent free to bet - and you don't really have a check-call or chech-raise hand here.

If it helps - I think your opponent played a lot worse than you did. He should have bet the turn, and he should have raised much more on the river. With a not-too-great kicker, even if he puts you on the A he should be worried about your other card, and be betting you off on the turn.