KK me UTG+2 Vs big stack!

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Ontem fiquei muito furioso com uma bad Beat num tournament Knouckot of 4.40 dollars.
We remained 120 pessoas of 2600. He was na posição 60 e pouco. Fiz um raise of 2,5 blinds e or big stack that was or big blind ten call.
No Flop saw 66T. Fiz uma C-bet of 1/3 do pote.
Ele ten call. No turn fiz outra C-bet de 30% do pote, ele ten call. No river ele beta 15 K that was 50% do pote. Então eu pago... não tinha A no bordo. então ele mostra uma sequência de 2 até 6. Ele was dando call na hope of um 5 pra complete in Sequência/street. Pagou by drill...
Should I have a dado um raise pré Flop more aggressive??
onde eu errei?
 
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Yesterday I got really mad about a bad beat in a Knouckot of 4.40 dollars tournament.
We remained 120 people out of 2600. He was in position 60 and little. I made a raise of 2.5 blinds and the big stack that was or big blind ten called.
On the flop saw 66T. I made a C-bet of 1/3 of the pot.
He has a call. On the turn I made another C-bet for 30% of the pot, he called. On the river he bet 15K which was 50% of the pot. So I called... there was no A on the board. then he shows a straight from 2 to 6. He was calling in hopes of a 5 to complete in straight/street. Paid by drill...
Should I have given a more aggressive pre-flop raise??
where did i go wrong?
 
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So no stack sizes given but I will assume we and villain are both at least somewhat deep meaning >50BBs. That could/would change the hand if I knew otherwise. Pre flop given that I think stack sizes are both deep then is perfectly fine.

Flop: on a T66 board you dont mention whether it is a rainbow board or two to a flush. That changes things since it changes the amount of value targets that we have on the flop. So if it was rainbow then I think 1/3rd is just fine unless you know villain calls a lot of c bets then you can make it bigger. If the board had two to a flush then I would bet a little larger since more will call now and there is more value opportunity. Plus we need slightly more protection for the hand too so if it was 2 to flush then I like 40-45% of pot sizing much more.

Turn: You dont mention what the turn card is and just like the flop, this matters, potentially a lot. There is a big difference here whether the turn was a 2 that made the board rainbow or was a 5 that was a third flush card. If its a 2 I still like betting more than 30% since villain already called flop so they have a little something and we can extract more. If the turn was a 5 then it comes down was it flush or not. Ifs its non 3 to a flush then I like 50% or slightly more on turn since again villain called flop and has a little something and now board is wetter so more hands are likelier to call. If the assumed 5 turn brings 3 to a flush then we still bet here but now is where I like more of a 35-40% bet sizing since we have to be somewhat aware of slowplayed made flushes against us. So to sum it up, this turn card makes a rather large difference imo of the sizing that should be used.

River: Dont know again what the card was as I would at least think about it more if the board was 66T54 vs 66T23 and only 45 got there vs the straight draws being open ended. I dont think I would fold unless I really knew villain didnt do anything unless they had a made hand so I think its a call either way but the board would dictate how confident I would be about and as mentioned before, would dictate my sizings I used to get to the river.
 
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As 300hpgod stated it is hard to give good advice when so much data is missing- so lets just focus on the river decision-

The V leads half pot- How often are they bluffing? How often are they betting a worse hand for value- How often is this bet a 6x hand or better?
That is your study point here-


Why would they not have bluffed turn? Why not rep the 6? Why wait till river to bluff?

Why would the V think you would fold?
What hands are they bluffing to get you to fold better?
Would they turn a Tx hand into a bluff?
You did not fold KK so this sizing does not target your value range for folds- So would they bluff a missed draw to get you to fold A high but not pairs?
Are they skilled enough to balance like that on river?
Or would most V bet larger with their bluffs?

Why would they think you would check back worse than a Tx hand but still call a 50% pot bet?
Was the river card so connected to the board that it made it a great bluff spot- was it a 4 card to a straight spot?

:unsure::geek:
 
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