is this justifiable?

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pokerstars Game #10866491020: Tournament #55087098, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/10 - 12:29:39 (ET)
Table '55087098 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: AhmushyBaby (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: poker_giesi (1480 in chips)
Seat 3: MacMojoh (1430 in chips)
Seat 4: johnnycards5 (1510 in chips)
Seat 5: Velox84 (1620 in chips)
Seat 6: $ourCe (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: prty naked (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Tabitha20 (1480 in chips)
Seat 9: Bigb2k (1500 in chips)
johnnycards5: posts small blind 10
Velox84: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AhmushyBaby [Jh Kc]
$ourCe: folds
prty naked: calls 20
Tabitha20: calls 20
Bigb2k: folds
AhmushyBaby: calls 20
poker_giesi: folds
MacMojoh: calls 20
johnnycards5: folds
Velox84: checks
*** FLOP *** [8d 8s 4s]
Velox84: checks
prty naked: checks
Tabitha20: checks
AhmushyBaby: checks
MacMojoh: checks
*** TURN *** [8d 8s 4s] [3s]
Velox84: bets 100
prty naked: folds
Tabitha20: folds
AhmushyBaby: raises 240 to 340
MacMojoh: folds
Velox84: calls 240
*** RIVER *** [8d 8s 4s 3s] [Td]
Velox84: checks
AhmushyBaby: bets 600
Velox84: calls 600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AhmushyBaby: shows [Jh Kc] (a pair of Eights)
Velox84: shows [Ac 8c] (three of a kind, Eights)
Velox84 collected 1990 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1990 | Rake 0
Board [8d 8s 4s 3s Td]
Seat 1: AhmushyBaby showed [Jh Kc] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 2: poker_giesi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: MacMojoh (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: johnnycards5 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Velox84 (big blind) showed [Ac 8c] and won (1990) with three of a kind, Eights
Seat 6: $ourCe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: prty naked folded on the Turn
Seat 8: Tabitha20 folded on the Turn
Seat 9: Bigb2k folded before Flop (didn't bet)

i am ahmushybaby. i tried bluffing the BB putting him on a 3. Is this a justifiable play, or a complete donk up. i know what i think, i think it was fine for the most part, just curious what everyone else thinks.
 
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idiot gave it right back

PokerStars Game #10866679203: Tournament #55087098, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/10 - 12:45:18 (ET)
Table '55087098 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: AhmushyBaby (585 in chips)
Seat 2: poker_giesi (1255 in chips)
Seat 3: MacMojoh (1750 in chips)
Seat 4: johnnycards5 (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: Velox84 (2175 in chips)
Seat 6: $ourCe (1920 in chips)
Seat 8: Tabitha20 (1300 in chips)
Seat 9: Bigb2k (3035 in chips)
johnnycards5: posts small blind 15
Velox84: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AhmushyBaby [Jh 7h]
$ourCe: folds
Tabitha20: folds
Bigb2k: folds
AhmushyBaby: calls 30
poker_giesi: folds
MacMojoh: folds
johnnycards5: folds
Velox84: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kh 7d 4d]
Velox84: bets 200
AhmushyBaby: raises 355 to 555 and is all-in
Velox84: calls 355
*** TURN *** [Kh 7d 4d] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [Kh 7d 4d 5s] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Velox84: shows [Td 2h] (a pair of Fours)
AhmushyBaby: shows [Jh 7h] (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
AhmushyBaby said, "?/"
AhmushyBaby collected 1185 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1185 | Rake 0
Board [Kh 7d 4d 5s 4h]
Seat 1: AhmushyBaby showed [Jh 7h] and won (1185) with two pair, Sevens and Fours
Seat 2: poker_giesi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: MacMojoh (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: johnnycards5 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Velox84 (big blind) showed [Td 2h] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 6: $ourCe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Tabitha20 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Bigb2k folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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I think first hand was a donk move on your part. And the second hand wasn't much better.
 
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The first to act bet on the turn from him suggests he has something and if you are going to bluff it's nice to have some outs. Once he calls your raise you should give him credit and your river bet is desperation more than anything.

2nd one, you've lost me there I'm afraid :)
 
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Hand one - u took a shot at the pot, he called, I would have though "well, I`ve had a go. He must have me beat" So I would have checked it down and folded to a raise.

U both check the flop so either
  1. U both missed it or
  2. Someone is slow playing a set
I think a bet here would have told me he had the 4 and was probing/ he already had a pp - or obviously it could have been a bluff. Either way, u had ziltch!!! So a bet at the flop would have been better, then fold to a raise.

So thats the good news!!!

The second hand :confused: sorry, but what were u thinking of???

I know they were soooooooooted, but, contary to belief, that does not make them a monster hand. I could understand with a lot of limpers and u in late position, but what would u have done if one of the players in late position had raise say 4 times the BB?

You got lucky. I think a big problem u had was u did not read your opponent. If u r up against a nutta does not mean u have to play like one. Wait until u have at least a 1/2 decent hand.

Sry to be so blunt.
 
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not blunt at all.

i think its perfectly fine considering the blinds were so low......
 
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