JJ in SB vs Big Stack Bully on Bubble

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cparker

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Here goes! Hope that I'm getting better at posting these :).

So this is an 18 man SnG. Villain has just won a race 4 hands ago to become the big stack. He has pushed 3/3 hands since then vs limps and raises alike and picked up 2k more. I wake up with JJ in SB and am supicious of big stack's play:

Top 4 cash, 5 left.

Stacks:
* SB with 3680
* BB with 12640
* UTG with 2070
* MP with 3955
* BTN with 4655

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Blinds: 75/150
Site: pokerstars
* * Dealt to SB:J♠ J♣
* * Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
* * 3 players fold.
Hero raises 450 to 600
* * BB raises 8250 to 8850 Hero calls [3080] [ all-in ]
* * Uncalled bet (5170) returned to BB
* * Total folds this street: 3
* * Potsize: 12530
Flop: K♦ 3♣ Q♦
* * Potsize: 12530
Turn: 5♦
* * Potsize: 12530
River: 6♠
Results:


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nathanthomp

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In a SNG you kind of have to fold in this spot. If villain pushes any pair or any A, K, or Q, in the long run, calling loses you about 18% of the prize pool. In a MTT it is a better call because of the lopsided payouts from immediately after the bubble to first place. Not so in a SNG and a call here is -EV.

3680 75 JJ -$17.86
12640 150 AA-22, AK-A2, KQ-K2, QJ-Q2 $31.37
 
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cparker

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Which simulator did you use? Using the Tournament simulator and plugging in the other 3 players I got this:


Exhaustive Tournalyzer Results (5,927,996,448 trials)

Payouts: 7.20,5.40,3.60,1.80

StackBlindHandsPost-hand ValuePre-hand Value
368075JJ $3.12$3.2512640150AA-22, A*, K*,Q* $5.31$5.6420700$2.29$2.0639550$3.48$3.3646550$3.80$3.70

Ok I give up - how do i show results on here?
 
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cparker

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Which tool did you use to get that result?

When I tried the tournament tool it gave -EV for both me and the villian. I tried to post the result here but it didn't work.
 
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I have to disagree, if someone is playing loose and you have JJ in that situation, i CALL 4 sure. If you fold JJ in a 5-handed game, what in the world will you call with (and wait around for?? JJ is one of the best hands in the game, and frequently puts you in 70% to win situations.
 
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