It seemed like a good idea to slowplay...



May 20, 2005
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pokerstars Game #5691636064: Tournament #28553456, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2006/07/26 - 18:47:46 (ET)
Table '28553456 1364' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: fosters39 (1225 in chips)
Seat 2: stamp666 (890 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: MILFDeb (2720 in chips)
Seat 4: tiger313 (3105 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: VolshebnikIG (1050 in chips)
Seat 6: t1riel (2265 in chips)
Seat 7: Alakaba (530 in chips)
Seat 8: staanemer (425 in chips)
Seat 9: bt94 (2065 in chips) is sitting out
stamp666: posts small blind 25
MILFDeb: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to t1riel [3s 3c]
tiger313: folds
VolshebnikIG: folds
t1riel: calls 50
Alakaba: calls 50
staanemer: folds
bt94: folds
fosters39: calls 50
stamp666: folds
MILFDeb: checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc 3d Qh]
MILFDeb: checks
t1riel: checks
Alakaba: bets 300
fosters39: calls 300
MILFDeb: folds
t1riel: calls 300
*** TURN *** [Jc 3d Qh] [8d]
t1riel: bets 900
bt94 is disconnected
Alakaba: calls 180 and is all-in
fosters39: calls 875 and is all-in
bt94 is connected
*** RIVER *** [Jc 3d Qh 8d] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
t1riel: shows [3s 3c] (three of a kind, Threes)
fosters39: shows [9h Th] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
fosters39 collected 1390 from side pot
Alakaba: shows [Jd Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
Alakaba collected 1665 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3055 Main pot 1665. Side pot 1390. | Rake 0
Board [Jc 3d Qh 8d 9d]
Seat 1: fosters39 (button) showed [9h Th] and won (1390) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 2: stamp666 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: MILFDeb (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: tiger313 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: VolshebnikIG folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: t1riel showed [3s 3c] and lost with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 7: Alakaba showed [Jd Ad] and won (1665) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 8: staanemer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: bt94 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Feb 2, 2005
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The only time I slowplay is when I either have a monster, near-unbeatable hand (like an overfull, quads, set on a safe board - which by the way this one is not), or am against maniacs whom I know I can trap. Another situation is when I'm getting little to no action, so I wait for my opponent to hit some part of the flop (ie give him a free card or two - see link below).
Of course I say this, but I myself get in alot of trouble with slowplays ... see big chip de-stacker in a $4 MTT today:

Anyways, you probably realize this after looking back at the hand aswell, but you were getting great action on a draw-heavy flop, and really should have raised that bet. Too many cards on the turn can harm your hand - K,T,A,Q,J.

Unfortunate one either way :(...I hate losing with sets


Jul 31, 2006
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I think you needed to pump up your bet on the flop more. It is a tough situation because you want action but you have a fairly dangerous board there with Q-J-3. Someone easily could have flopped two pair with Q-J or had an open ended straight draw or even a pocket pair that hadnt made its set yet. Especially with bottom set I always try to make a raise that is just large enough to force out any draws. It is tough because you want to suck your opponents in but the money you will lose by your opponent making his hand is always greater than the money you can make by betting small-or not enough.


Rising Star
Aug 4, 2006
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First thing I thought of when I read the title of this thread..."It is NEVER a good idea to slowplay" haha. We've all been burned by slowplaying a million times. But what I wonder is: what we gain by slowplaying, does that make up for the times we get sucked out on. In other words, if your slowplay gets cracked 1 time out of 10, is what you lose on that slowplay more than what you gain by slowplaying the other 9 times? Who knows, obviously it can't be answered, just food for thought for your poker mind.

Dorkus Malorkus

Dorkus Malorkus

Jul 12, 2005
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*** FLOP *** [Jc 3d Qh]
MILFDeb: checks
t1riel: checks
Alakaba: bets 300
fosters39: calls 300
MILFDeb: folds
t1riel: calls 300

I don't mind the initial flop check too much, but you have to push here. Your opponents are shortstacked, and as such will probably feel pot committed and are likely therefore to call you will all sorts of hands you're beating. There's no need to slowplay.