Did I play this like a donk?

tonymaclennan

tonymaclennan

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My table is quite conservative, this is the hand in question, everybody checked through flop - took them about a second (so not instant nor did they put much though in to it), my positioning was good, so I threw out a 100 bet.
I was on a straight draw (as you can obviously see :)), and hit it on the turn, so checked, hoping the remaining opponents would think I made a weak attempt to take the pot on the flop!

If you were playing against me here, what hand would you have put me on?
And please tell me whether it was played outright atrociously or not.

For the record though, I wouldn't usually chase a straight!

pokerstars Game #10551456229: Tournament #53449316, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/06/21 - 18:33:37 (ET)
Table '53449316 4' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: toocoolchef1 (1295 in chips)
Seat 2: chdapple (4220 in chips)
Seat 3: tonymaclenna (1565 in chips)
Seat 4: bacool (1685 in chips)
Seat 6: RedCrayon (3425 in chips)
Seat 7: andj99 (6220 in chips)
Seat 8: sweetbobby (2610 in chips)
Seat 9: Franciscus35 (2965 in chips)
RedCrayon: posts small blind 25
andj99: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tonymaclenna [Th Qs]
sweetbobby: calls 50
Franciscus35: folds
toocoolchef1: folds
chdapple: calls 50
tonymaclenna: calls 50
bacool: calls 50
RedCrayon: folds
andj99: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js Kc 8d]
andj99: checks
sweetbobby: checks
chdapple: checks
tonymaclenna: bets 100
bacool: calls 100
andj99: calls 100
sweetbobby: calls 100
chdapple: calls 100
*** TURN *** [Js Kc 8d] [As]
andj99: checks
sweetbobby: checks
chdapple: checks
tonymaclenna: checks
bacool: checks
*** RIVER *** [Js Kc 8d As] [4h]
andj99: bets 150
sweetbobby: folds
chdapple: folds
tonymaclenna: raises 250 to 400
bacool: folds
andj99: calls 250
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tonymaclenna: shows [Th Qs] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
andj99: mucks hand
tonymaclenna collected 1575 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1575 | Rake 0
Board [Js Kc 8d As 4h]
Seat 1: toocoolchef1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: chdapple folded on the River
Seat 3: tonymaclenna showed [Th Qs] and won (1575) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 4: bacool (button) folded on the River
Seat 6: RedCrayon (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: andj99 (big blind) mucked [Ks 5c]
Seat 8: sweetbobby folded on the River
Seat 9: Franciscus35 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
rob5775

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I don't see a problem with this play. Why wouldn't you bet your up/down straight draw? The players in front of you have checked, and the button is left to act. A bet will likely take down the pot and a caller is not necessarily unwelcome. The only problem with betting your draw is if someone raises or check/raises you for a large chunk of chips.

I'm guessing someone called you a donkey or a chaser after the play? That's the only reason I can see to pose that question. If so, just ignore it... chasers do not bet at their draws... they chase them (ie - check/calling all the way down).

And just a suggestion - try a pot sized bet on the flop (or around 200). It would have served you better here. It doesn't seem as weak, and would define the hands of the callers a little better. Remember, one reason to bet at draws is to take it down right there, and if called you have disguised your hand (sometimes).
 
skoldpadda

skoldpadda

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I bet the turn. If someone has an ace, you'll get paid well when you bet again on the river.
 
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