Did I make a bad call?

Lopos

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Hello, I'm new to these forums and just recently started to get very interested in poker, but have been playing casually for a couple of years with friends, and have just recently turned 21 so I am able to go out and actually play live games and tournaments.

So anyways, Ill get to the story. I decide to go out to the local casino for their weekly 60 seat tournament, and unfortunately I showed up 5 min late for open registration and have to sit on the wait list. When I finally get my seat, I get placed directly to the right of the button, and start with 2500 chips. The other players at the table had been playing a while, (knocking out 2 players before I sat down) so the average chip stack was higher than my own.

So I get to my Very first had at a live tournament.
Blinds are 50/100 and everyone but the man to my imediate right folds(calls the BB), I look at my hole cards and I'm holding KK. I decide to raise to 300 and everyone else on the table folds, including the BB. The man to my right calls, and we see the flop. It hits 3, 8, Q, All off suit. Immediately, the guy to my right throws me all in (Betting 2500) I was flabbergasted, but I looked at the board saw no straight or flush draw with a queen high. So, naturally I call his all in raise and he was holding a set of 3s. He knocked me out of my first live tournament leaving a very sour taste in my mouth.

So I come here to ask a simple question. Was this the right call, even though my tournament was at stake? Should I have folded it and waited for another hand to come my way?

P.S. This is a $15 tournament with the casino adding $500 to the prize pool.
 
stevencool1

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the very same thing happened to me on my first tourney. I had pocket j's flop was J 2 Q I thought I had the hand won. he went all-in as did I. turned out he had pocket QQ. go figuire.
you couldnt do anything different. You could of doubled up on him. winning your first hand. happens to pro's all the time.
btw- $15 for a casino tourney is cheap. you probbly spent more on gas and food going to the tourny.
just have fun.
 
Lopos

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btw- $15 for a casino tourney is cheap. you probbly spent more on gas and food going to the tourny.

Heh, I actually did spend more on food and gas. The reason I added the P.S. was to emphasize the fact that this tournament was not expensive.
 
SubT33

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Lopos, to answer the question posed in your thread title, yes I do think you made a bad call. The first thing that went through my mind when I read your description was that villain has a set. Yeah you could have doubled up, but that really doesn't mean too much this early in the tournament. You never want to put your tournament life on the line so early. Besides trying to win some money, you are also playing to gain experience. The longer you last, the more experience you will get from this particular tourney. Besides there are a whole slew of players who are using this strategy against inexperienced tournament players. An all-in bet so early and with a non-coordinated board smacks of someone trying to bully you around with no hand, and that's exactly what you thought in this case. And he got paid off, because you fell for it. Good luck next time :)
 
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It wasn't a bad call. He's prob not got AA or QQ as he'd reraise preflop. If he's got 88/33 then so be it, but it was strange of him to put you all in. He's lucky you had such a big hand otherwise he'd have made no money from his set.
 
jewboy07

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i can't for the life of me understand why a player would push like that

they should be trying to get value out of their set and without his opponent having kings [which you did] or aces here he most likely wouldn't get a call

i don't think it was a bad call though but hey it was only $15
 
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Yeah, Agree with prev post I think you made a goodcall nothing atTALl you could do man, he could've had top pair and been making some strange move or something but I would definitely call a one bet ALL-in,yessir
 
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I'de say you made a good call. Not everyone is a pokerpro, and you didn't really have a lot of time to feel out your opponents. poket k's looking up to Q high , you'd probally assume he has top pair top kicker. i know i would.
 
DeadoneD1

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Im confused....Sub, you would have folded KK with 400 out of 2500 in the
pot?? Thats a very hard lay down to me.. I fear I would have been history also
 
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YOU DEFINITELY FOLD HERE.....why would he over shove here if he only had top pair? the pot is too small and he obviously put you on an over pair of some sort, so he tried to maximise his value by over shoving on the flop to make it look like a steal!!!! danger danger
 
Lopos

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Im Getting a lot of mixed responses but it looks like its leaning more towards the fold. Ill keep an eye ou for any future plays like this.
 
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