I feel ill now

[beardyian]

pokerstars Game #11433974095: Tournament #54797428, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/08/11 - 17:13:50 (ET)
Table '54797428 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: joker131 (2380 in chips)
Seat 2: beardyian (1470 in chips)
Seat 3: PLF_DBA_MAN (1120 in chips)
Seat 4: holdin2s (1550 in chips)
Seat 5: lightning36 (1160 in chips)
Seat 6: jroyfus (1600 in chips)
Seat 7: tenbob (1350 in chips)
Seat 8: reglardave (1550 in chips)
Seat 9: Kenzie96 (1640 in chips)
jroyfus: posts small blind 10
tenbob: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to beardyian [As Ah]
Kenzie96 said, "humbug"
reglardave: calls 20
Kenzie96: folds
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "too busy relishing my SNG win"
joker131: calls 20
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "50 bucks"
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "wooot"
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "lol"
beardyian: raises 60 to 80
PLF_DBA_MAN: folds
holdin2s: folds
lightning36: folds
jroyfus: folds
Kenzie96 said, "congrats"
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "ty"
tenbob: folds
reglardave: calls 60
joker131: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [3h Kd 5d]
beardyian said, "$10 buy in ? or 50"
reglardave: checks
joker131: bets 100
Kenzie96 said, "wonder if a Canadian has ever done that before?"
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "$5"
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "27 man"
beardyian: raises 220 to 320
reglardave: folds
beardyian said, "nice one"
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "ty ty"
joker131: raises 1980 to 2300 and is all-in
beardyian: calls 1070 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [3h Kd 5d] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [3h Kd 5d Kc] [3c]
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "ouch"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
joker131: shows [5s Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Fives)
beardyian: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
joker131 collected 3050 from pot
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "gg ian"
PLF_DBA_MAN said, "bl"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3050 | Rake 0
Board [3h Kd 5d Kc 3c]
Seat 1: joker131 showed [5s Ks] and won (3050) with a full house, Kings full of Fives
Seat 2: beardyian showed [As Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 3: PLF_DBA_MAN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: holdin2s folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: lightning36 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jroyfus (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: tenbob (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: reglardave folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Kenzie96 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

sooted cards vs unsooted cards - you were a dog all the way

 

[Craized]

I would have pushed harder preflop

 

[The PoolBoy]

Jocker was on roll all weekend. Beat me heads up to win this one with a less favored hand. Congrats to all that placed.

 

[Mvemjsunpx]

I would have pushed harder preflop

Why? 4 bb's is a pretty standard raise. Nobody reraised him.

Anyway, there's nothing really wrong with the way you played this hand. Maybe you could have folded to the shove, but a lot of people are willing to shove w/ just top pair.
If you are going to bust, you may as well do it early. If you had invested more time & the money/higher-money was near, then folding may have been a better option.

 

[Craized]

Why? 4 bb's is a pretty standard raise. Nobody reraised him.

Looking at it in relation to the size of the stacks, it's a pretty weak bet IMO. Nobody reraised most likely because they want to see the flop and hope to draw a better hand. Personally I'd go with a minimum 10BB raise, maybe more.

 

[Kenzie 96]

sooted cards vs unsooted cards - you were a dog all the way

duh, first time on poker stars, Ian?

 

[rob5775]

Your play was fine Ian... can you really put him on K5 (lol it was soooooted).

K5s... jeez, I gotta play more CC tourneys .

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

Looking at it in relation to the size of the stacks, it's a pretty weak bet IMO. Nobody reraised most likely because they want to see the flop and hope to draw a better hand. Personally I'd go with a minimum 10BB raise, maybe more.

then you'd be losing value.

 

[tenbob]

When you get 4-bet all-in with almost full stacks on the flop and your holding a single pair, esp agaisnt several PF callers, do you really still think you ahead. Ezy fold.

 

[Mvemjsunpx]

Looking at it in relation to the size of the stacks, it's a pretty weak bet IMO. Nobody reraised most likely because they want to see the flop and hope to draw a better hand. Personally I'd go with a minimum 10BB raise, maybe more.

All you'll probably get out of that is a blind steal, and the blinds are worthless at this point.
Not to mention you grossly give away the strength of your hand.

 

[blankoblanco]

When you get 4-bet all-in with almost full stacks on the flop and your holding a single pair, esp agaisnt several PF callers, do you really still think you ahead. Ezy fold.

Eh, it's close. I don't know about you but I see KQ, KJ, KT in spots like this about 20 times a week

 

[belladonna05]

sooted cards vs unsooted cards - you were a dog all the way

Are those the cards that got dropped down the chimney?

 

[robwhufc]

We should have some sort of "Bad Beat" section for hands like this!?

This'll be the Pokerstars game that is still shown on the Calender as being on Sunday then?

 

[dj11]

When you get 4-bet all-in with almost full stacks on the flop and your holding a single pair, esp agaisnt several PF callers, do you really still think you ahead. Ezy fold.

It is NEVER EASY to fold AA. We are creatures of greed, and that instinct raises its ugly head as we raise the pot.

It was early, I was railing, and this revelation occurred; with the bets starting out there so relatively meaningless (average was still 1500, so 90 was relatively meaningless), a much bigger bet (at least 5x) is needed early to get the same results you would hope for later, when the bets are bigger, and bet/stack ratios declines.

Would joker have folded to a 5x pf raise?

 

[aliengenius]

Would joker have folded to a 5x pf raise?

No, and neither would fegulardave.
Also, neither one of these guys is going to be aggressive post flop (as seen here) unless they have a HUGE hand.