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mischman

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Besides the J10 what is your range of calling hands?

POKERSTARS GAME #7804514462: TOURNAMENT #39878825, $5.00+$0.50 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL III (25/50) - 2007/01/06 - 22:15:21 (ET)
Table '39878825 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: mischman (3675 in chips)
Seat 2: holdin2s (1805 in chips)
Seat 7: MrSticker66 (2515 in chips)
Seat 9: JimboJim711 (1005 in chips)
JimboJim711: posts small blind 25
mischman: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrSticker66 [Js Ts]
holdin2s: folds
MrSticker66: raises 100 to 150

jimboJim711: folds
mischman: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [7h 8h Tc]
mischman: checks
MrSticker66: bets 300
mischman: raises 3225 to 3525 and is all-in
MrSticker66:????
 
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Besides the J10 what is your range of calling hands?

POKERSTARS GAME #7804514462: TOURNAMENT #39878825, $5.00+$0.50 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL III (25/50) - 2007/01/06 - 22:15:21 (ET)
Table '39878825 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: mischman (3675 in chips)
Seat 2: holdin2s (1805 in chips)
Seat 7: MrSticker66 (2515 in chips)
Seat 9: JimboJim711 (1005 in chips)
JimboJim711: posts small blind 25
mischman: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrSticker66 [Js Ts]
holdin2s: folds
MrSticker66: raises 100 to 150

jimboJim711: folds
mischman: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [7h 8h Tc]
mischman: checks
MrSticker66: bets 300
mischman: raises 3225 to 3525 and is all-in
MrSticker66:????
With the way that the hand was played the only thing that he could have that he could be calling with would be A10 or 77/88 1010-AA or MAYBE 99 but thats about it i would think
 
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1 poll vote, 2 replys, chris is online and this things been posted for an hour....
 
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Real response: it depends on my reads from recent play. I'm not going to reveal my notes/reads on your previous play with me, but it would depend on both those and my reads of you from the past 10-20 hands prior to this one. I'm not voting because I don't know them.

ps what does chris being online have to do with this?
 
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Real response: it depends on my reads from recent play. I'm not going to reveal my notes/reads on your previous play with me, but it would depend on both those and my reads of you from the past 10-20 hands prior to this one. I'm not voting because I don't know them.

ps what does chris being online have to do with this?
What would you do in general? I could care less if your notes say im a donkey too....im guessing the 10-8 bounty hand is in it?

Chris usually gives insight all the HA posts...
 
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What would you do in general? I could care less if your notes say im a donkey too....im guessing the 10-8 bounty hand is in it?

Chris usually gives insight all the HA posts...

No it says nothing about you being a donkey lol

tbh I dunno; sometimes you play serious, sometimes you play wild + for fun (see T8), so like I said it would depend on how you'd played recently for me to make a decision. With the chip stacks so big compared to the blinds, I probably fold unless you've been making moves like this consistently.
 
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p.s. as for my range, ignoring reads, maybe AT, definitely 77, 88, TT and probably JJ+
 
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No it says nothing about you being a donkey lol

tbh I dunno; sometimes you play serious, sometimes you play wild + for fun (see T8), so like I said it would depend on how you'd played recently for me to make a decision. With the chip stacks so big compared to the blinds, I probably fold unless you've been making moves like this consistently.
Most of the chips came from me having QQ and kenzie busting. Ive shown a few bluffs due to the fact that i know this table is tight(and was playing tight through the hole game)
 
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p.s. as for my range, ignoring reads, maybe AT, definitely 77, 88, TT and probably JJ+
So you say maybe A10 but J10 is a fold? Would i(based on pastreads and regardless of if im playing wild or 'normal') check raise a flop of that with K-10, Q-10? Whats the big difference between J10 and A10 in this spot?
 
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Most of the chips came from me having QQ and kenzie busting. Ive shown a few bluffs due to the fact that i know this table is tight(and was playing tight through the whole game)
I still don't know exactly what you had. But I do know that my neighborhood guess had you pegged perfectly or you wouldn't have made this an issue.

"I can see into your soul." :icon_sunn Bruce Leroy has the "glow", son.
 
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So you say maybe A10 but J10 is a fold? Would i(based on pastreads and regardless of if im playing wild or 'normal') check raise a flop of that with K-10, Q-10? Whats the big difference between J10 and A10 in this spot?

That's a good point...I kind of rushed my posts and didn't think about that much. Unfortunately I gotta rnu and shower because I'm going to meet up with my pops to get smashed, so I'll get back to you tomorrow with a legit reply.
 
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Im going to bed too, Fun playing with you sticker
 
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I still don't know exactly what you had. But I do know that my neighborhood guess had you pegged perfectly or you wouldn't have made this an issue.

"I can see into your soul." :icon_sunn Bruce Leroy has the "glow", son.
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Top pair, no kicker, on a draw heavy board against an all-in ??????

THINK ABOUT IT.
 
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You know, if you want the hand this bad Misch it's yours. Don't even care if it's a stone bluff. As far as the all-in raise goes, you would have to have the nuts AND have some reason to believe Sticky was gonna call to make this anything less than a mistake. Since Sticky doesn't know, I guess you were wrong.
 
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Misch could definitely be on a draw... if he is, we generally range from being anywhere from 60-40 ahead to 40-60 behind (we're about that far behind A9, K9, or Q9 of hearts).

Because our draw is not very good, just a gutshot, we're generally further behind the hands that are ahead of us than Misch will be behind our hands. A T with a better kicker or a T8 is 70/30 over us. 78 is 60/40 ahead. A set is obviously slaughtering us (85/15), even though that's pretty unlikely.

Basically, even when we're ahead, we're rarely ahead by much at all, and we're even behind some of the stronger draws. When we're behind we may be way behind. Absolutely no sense putting everything at risk here. Fold.
 
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I still don't know exactly what you had. But I do know that my neighborhood guess had you pegged perfectly or you wouldn't have made this an issue.

"I can see into your soul." :icon_sunn Bruce Leroy has the "glow", son.

You didnt know i was going to make a big deal out of it while you were thinking about what to do?

You know, if you want the hand this bad Misch it's yours. Don't even care if it's a stone bluff. As far as the all-in raise goes, you would have to have the nuts AND have some reason to believe Sticky was gonna call to make this anything less than a mistake. Since Sticky doesn't know, I guess you were wrong.
What? I understand hardly any of that.
 
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Because of his large bet after the turn I would guess JJ, QQ, KK, or AA and possibly an Ace high flush draw
 
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Knowing what I do of you, I would say you had the J 9.
 
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You know, if you want the hand this bad Misch it's yours. Don't even care if it's a stone bluff. As far as the all-in raise goes, you would have to have the nuts AND have some reason to believe Sticky was gonna call to make this anything less than a mistake. Since Sticky doesn't know, I guess you were wrong.
I understand all of that. :albertein

Wow, this is the most response I've ever gotten to one of my hand histories and I didn't even post it. LOL! Now if I could just get anyone during the CC events to chat with me (besides Misch & Freak), I'd feel right at home.
 
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I'm gonna go with Q9 or K9, at least one heart.
 
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Top pair, no kicker, on a draw heavy board against an all-in ??????

THINK ABOUT IT.

Yeah - I wasn't with my previous replies...

Misch is either making a very uninviting play with the goods (a set), or is making a play to gain control with a draw, TP or some crazy hand. He could also have an overpair, but I definitely think he's reraising PF so we can somewhat discount that. Considering stacks and blinds etc, I fold without a set or better. JT is an easy fold.

His bet is really uninviting though; I'm thinking he's making this play with A9 or a flush draw or some other hand.
 
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So what'd the donkeyfish have in the end? :)
 
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