hey guys- what could i have done differently?

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copywrite

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ehh hows it goin yall .. kinda new here just startin to get active now .. i have a question for some you heads..
i wasnt sure how i was suppose to play this ... any hints or tips .. i figured him for a tight weak -- and i had him on AKh -- i know i should have done something differently to play this hand better but im not sure what that is.. hopin for some feedback!


pokerstars Game #11959975309: Tournament #59838277, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/09/09 - 12:37:47 (ET)
Table '59838277 30' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Mungo Jack (6505 in chips)
Seat 2: copywrite (5090 in chips)
Seat 3: X roader (4005 in chips)
Seat 4: yakuzamafia (3280 in chips)
Seat 5: AKABoumi (5855 in chips)
Seat 6: mcgill53 (5745 in chips)
Seat 7: corllja (4075 in chips)
Seat 8: wild freak (4890 in chips)
Seat 9: boeheim4pres (9175 in chips)
copywrite: posts small blind 15
X roader: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to copywrite [Qc Qd]
yakuzamafia: calls 30
AKABoumi: folds
mcgill53: folds
corllja: raises 120 to 150
wild freak: folds
boeheim4pres: folds
Mungo Jack: folds
copywrite: raises 210 to 360
X roader: folds
yakuzamafia: calls 330
corllja: calls 210
*** FLOP *** [2s 2h Jh]
copywrite: bets 570
yakuzamafia: calls 570
corllja: folds
*** TURN *** [2s 2h Jh] [Ad]
copywrite: checks
yakuzamafia: checks
*** RIVER *** [2s 2h Jh Ad] [Jd]
copywrite: checks
yakuzamafia: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
copywrite: shows [Qc Qd] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
yakuzamafia: mucks hand
copywrite collected 2250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2250 | Rake 0
Board [2s 2h Jh Ad Jd]
Seat 1: Mungo Jack (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: copywrite (small blind) showed [Qc Qd] and won (2250) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 3: X roader (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: yakuzamafia mucked [Qh 8h]
Seat 5: AKABoumi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mcgill53 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: corllja folded on the Flop
Seat 8: wild freak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: boeheim4pres folded before Flop (didn't bet)

i know its not a huge hand or anything .. and not a giant result however i though it was interesting as i wasnt sure how to act on the turn ...as well as the river
 
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ehh hows it goin yall .. kinda new here just startin to get active now .. i have a question for some you heads..
i wasnt sure how i was suppose to play this ... any hints or tips .. i figured him for a tight weak -- and i had him on AKh -- i know i should have done something differently to play this hand better but im not sure what that is.. hopin for some feedback!


PokerStars Game #11959975309: Tournament #59838277, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/09/09 - 12:37:47 (ET)
Table '59838277 30' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Mungo Jack (6505 in chips)
Seat 2: copywrite (5090 in chips)
Seat 3: X roader (4005 in chips)
Seat 4: yakuzamafia (3280 in chips)
Seat 5: AKABoumi (5855 in chips)
Seat 6: mcgill53 (5745 in chips)
Seat 7: corllja (4075 in chips)
Seat 8: wild freak (4890 in chips)
Seat 9: boeheim4pres (9175 in chips)
copywrite: posts small blind 15
X roader: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to copywrite [Qc Qd]
yakuzamafia: calls 30
AKABoumi: folds
mcgill53: folds
corllja: raises 120 to 150
wild freak: folds
boeheim4pres: folds
Mungo Jack: folds
copywrite: raises 210 to 360
X roader: folds
yakuzamafia: calls 330
corllja: calls 210
*** FLOP *** [2s 2h Jh]
copywrite: bets 570- bet is too low here, there is a flush draw on board, pot bet needed here
yakuzamafia: calls 570 - just coldcalling here is a good indication of a draw here
corllja: folds
*** TURN *** [2s 2h Jh] A♦
copywrite: checks - horrible, you should have put out a pot sized bet here, don't be afraid of the ace here, the check just tells villian that you are afraid of the ace.
yakuzamafia: checks
*** RIVER *** [2s 2h Jh Ad] J♦
copywrite: checks - same as above.
yakuzamafia: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
copywrite: shows [Qc Qd] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
yakuzamafia: mucks hand
copywrite collected 2250 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2250 | Rake 0
Board [2s 2h Jh Ad Jd]
Seat 1: Mungo Jack (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: copywrite (small blind) showed [Qc Qd] and won (2250) with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 3: X roader (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: yakuzamafia mucked [Qh 8h]
Seat 5: AKABoumi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mcgill53 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: corllja folded on the Flop
Seat 8: wild freak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: boeheim4pres folded before Flop (didn't bet)

i know its not a huge hand or anything .. and not a giant result however i though it was interesting as i wasnt sure how to act on the turn ...as well as the river
look to comments in red.
 
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dj11

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You might have raised 3x pf instead of the raise you made,
And of course you missed an opportunity on the turn when you still had top pair but the Ace scared you. You might have probed for info.

Looks like you were not quite aggressive enough here to increase your profit.

Had you bet the river, and villain folded, same results, but had he called you, and that is a real possibility, you benefit.

The turn ace is the scare card, but it would also be scary for villain. A 1/3 pot bet here looks either like a probe or a value bet. If villain sees it as a probe, he might come back over the top and put you in a world of hurt decision wise. If he sees it as a value bet he folds it.
 
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There's two possible things you could've done and in my opinion they can both be correct:
1. Do what you did, check/call down to the river once you see that ace.
2. Bet on that ace. If he has it, he'll usually give you some sign that he does based on his prior patterns.

If you followed method #2, you can usually act from that information. But as dj11 said, if he's a really good opponent he could feed you false information and put you in a real fix.

If you put him as a tight player, I'd say it made sense that he might have that ace. Q8 is a very unlikely holding considering your holding.
 
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