$Freeroll NLHE MTT: QQ River fold?

[es530]

poker stars Freeroll No Limit Hold'em Tournament, Blinds: t20/t40 Conversor de Mãos

9 players
es747 (UTG+2): t1,620 ( M:27.00 )
ufotim (MP): t1,800 ( M:30.00 )
russipower (MP+1): t1,380 ( M:23.00 )
CJle3a Maka (CO): t1,440 ( M:24.00 )
delia mabel (BTN): t1,420 ( M:23.67 )
dreamchess (SB): t1,660 ( M:27.67 )
GauchoInter (BB): t3,840 ( M:64.00 )
juanito_517 (UTG): t1,500 ( M:25.00 )
zumbitapoker (UTG+1): t1,500 ( M:25.00 )

Hero is UTG+2 with Q

, Q

Preflop: ( t60 )
1 fold, zumbitapoker calls t40, es747 raises to t160, 5 folds, GauchoInter calls t120, 1 fold

Flop: ( t380 ) 7

, T

, T

(2 players)
GauchoInter checks, es747 bets t190, GauchoInter calls t190

Turn: ( t760 ) T

(2 players)
GauchoInter checks, es747 checks

River: ( t760 ) 4

(2 players)
GauchoInter bets t680, es747 raises to t1,270 ( all-in ), GauchoInter calls t590

 

[WiZZiM]

no never folding wp, every possible pair pays us off here, but sometimes we will be beat by weird stuff. But don't question yourself you played it fine

 

[hffjd2000]

We would be happy we commit all our chips at the river.

The only hand he probably holds which we are lost is with a T. Lucky for him if thats the case.

 

[PCK]

No way to fold QQ here,you played well this hand,maybe that check on the turn but probabily i would played the same

 

[horizon12]

In freeroll easy shove river, villain can have 7 or 4 and pairs like 99 JJ 88..

Also can say, turn check good, if you bet villain fold around 85%..

 

[LinkornU]

Since it was a freeroll you made the right decesion.
There are a lot of people who do real strange things.

 

[Ambur]

In freeroll easy shove river, villain can have 7 or 4 and pairs like 99 JJ 88..

Also can say, turn check good, if you bet villain fold around 85%..

So you are trying to say that giving value away on turn is perfectly fine against random player similar situation?

 

[horizon12]

So you are trying to say that giving value away on turn is perfectly fine against random player similar situation?

We need check turn, because we can assume that preflop limp villain mean very wide range, around 70% players in freeroll can call with random hands... Since board very safe for us, we can lose only against quads and KK AA.,these hands will be very often.

That is why the need to give a free card for villain in turn, ( bet mean around 85% fold ) because we will have a chance make big value bet in river, if villain get something..

@es530 How hand ends ? I think if you posted this hand, you lose vs quads

 

[atlantafalcons0]

I think checking the turn is a mistake. Why not bet about $540 and fold to a raise? Are we married to this hand on the river? I'm thinking the villain had quads too.

 

[Ambur]

I think turn most be bet most of the time, because you giving the value away! For example you might be beaten at turn but all K and A hand combos can improve to beat you on river! The worst case villain has KA then he has basically 6 outs KKKAAA to beat you (App. 12% chance). Even some kind of tiny sweetener bet can play the roll very well.

As played, what you think about calling the river? (is it good idea or not, it leaves you t590 stack if you are beaten but if you win then your stack will be t2710 and it is still Early stage on tourney thats why i thought about it, maybe i am wrong and should ship it anyway on river). Its only a freeroll, just some thoughts!

 

[trent32la]

Hand was played fine other than the river. Just flat call the river, there isn't much else paying us off here in our opponent's preflop limp/call range that isn't 10x.

 

[es530]

We need check turn, because we can assume that preflop limp villain mean very wide range, around 70% players in freeroll can call with random hands... Since board very safe for us, we can lose only against quads and KK AA.,these hands will be very often.

That is why the need to give a free card for villain in turn, ( bet mean around 85% fold ) because we will have a chance make big value bet in river, if villain get something..

@es530 How hand ends ? I think if you posted this hand, you lose vs quads

Yes horizon12 I lost to a block he held ATs, I'm sorry the delay is that I'll post and posting hands and had not seen the question still, thanks for your opinion.

 

[Martinosky11]

There are some PP in his range and Your check on Turn looks like giving up. We can't fold there.

 

[lilu80]

Never fold in this. Good board to me and ofc GG here.

 

[still100]

played well, dont fold

 

[Jacki Burkhart]

If you elect to check the turn you are under-representing your hand to induce action from worse hands and therefore must call/bet/raise attempt to GII on the river every time to make up for the lost value on the turn.

If you decide to value bet on the turn then you should just flat his river bet since (given the action) your raise will mostly get called by better hands.