$Freeroll NLHE MTT: JJ UTG against 2 all in

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Should i have folded here JJ pre-flop? Both opponents are very loose in play, they have played 27 hands with me at the table and have a VPIP of 59.
The UTG+1 has a PFR of 44 but the SB is calling and limping pre-flop of 73



pokerstars - 100/200 Ante 20 NL - Holdem - 8 players


CO: 32,028 (160.1 bb)
BTN: 16,287 (81.4 bb)
SB: 13,005 (65 bb)
BB: 9,020 (45.1 bb)
Hero (UTG): 13,370 (66.9 bb)
UTG+1: 4,340 (21.7 bb)
MP: 19,705 (98.5 bb)
MP+1: 8,945 (44.7 bb)

8 players post ante of 20, SB posts 100, BB posts 200

Pre Flop: (pot: 460) Hero has :jc4: :jd4:
Hero raises to 600, UTG+1 raises to 4,320 and is all-in, 4 folds, SB raises to 12,985 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 12,385

Flop: (30,650, 3 players) :3c4: :2s4: :qc4:

Turn: (30,650, 3 players) :ac4:

River: (30,650, 3 players) :qs4:

Results: 30,650 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :3c4: :2s4: :qc4: :ac4: :qs4:

SB shows :9d4: :ah4:: (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
Main Pot: [13,320]: (Pre 17%, Flop 3%, Turn 15%)
Side Pot: [17,330]: (Pre 22%, Flop 10%, Turn 74%)

Hero shows :jc4: :jd4:: (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
Main Pot: [13,320]: (Pre 70%, Flop 83%, Turn 24%)
Side Pot: [17,330]: (Pre 78%, Flop 90%, Turn 26%)

UTG+1 shows :ad4: :2d4:: (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
Main Pot: [13,320]: (Pre 13%, Flop 15%, Turn 61%)

SB wins 30,650
 
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In a normal tournament I would often fold here, unless SB is some kind of maniac. But in a freeroll you will just see to many people show up with random junk, as in fact they both did. You had 70% equity preflop in a 3-way pot, so why would you ever want to fold here? Its just the runout, that was bad for you, but thats part of the game and nothing to panic about.

Its so common for people to be results oriented, and a hand like this almost never end up in a poker forum, if people win it. But what does it change, that the board ran out 32Q-A-Q rather than for instance 32J-A-Q or 32Q-K-Q? Absolutely nothing, since the chips were already in the middle, and after that we are just rolling a dice.
 
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In a normal tournament I would often fold here, unless SB is some kind of maniac. But in a freeroll you will just see to many people show up with random junk, as in fact they both did. You had 70% equity preflop in a 3-way pot, so why would you ever want to fold here? Its just the runout, that was bad for you, but that's part of the game and nothing to panic about.

Its so common for people to be results oriented, and a hand like this almost never end up in a poker forum, if people win it. But what does it change, that the board ran out 32Q-A-Q rather than for instance 32J-A-Q or 32Q-K-Q? Absolutely nothing, since the chips were already in the middle, and after that we are just rolling a dice.


Thank you so much for this input. It's nice to know the thinking of more experienced players.
 
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I would call first pusher, but after second repush it is hard fold.
 
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Well with the info you have on them playing so many hands its pretty much an easy call and you will triple up in these spots so often it way more than makes up for the times they luckbox something to knock you out.
 
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