$Freeroll NLHE MTT: Call with A high Flush Draw

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Is calling here a bad call with A high flush draw? Villain has played only 9 hands and limped pre-flop half of them.



pokerstars - 100/200 Ante 20 NL - Holdem - 9 players


MP+1: 9,371 (46.9 bb)
MP+2: 15,302 (76.5 bb)
CO: 3,903 (19.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): 11,630 (58.2 bb)
SB: 630 (3.2 bb)
BB: 721 (3.6 bb)
UTG: 20,759 (103.8 bb)
UTG+1: 5,873 (29.4 bb)
MP: 4,027 (20.1 bb)

9 players post ante of 20, SB posts 100, BB posts 200

Pre Flop: (pot: 480) Hero has :8c4: :ah4:
2 folds, MP raises to 400, 3 folds, Hero calls 400, 2 folds

Flop: (1,280, 2 players) :4h4: :3h4: :2h4:
MP bets 3,607 and is all-in, Hero calls 3,607

Turn: (8,494, 2 players) :9d4:

River: (8,494, 2 players) :10s4:

Results: 8,494 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :4h4: :3h4: :2h4: :9d4: :10s4:
 
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Preflop
A8o is not a hand, we would raise first in from MP, and when a player was already entered the pot, we need a stronger range than his to enter behind. So for me this is just an easy fold and move on to the next hand.

Flop
Facing a shove is a pure math based decision, so you want to work on situations like this away from the tables with a free program like Equilab. You plug in your hand and the board, and then play around with his range and see, what different assumptions does to your equity. You need 42,5% to break even in pure chip EV, and without actually doing the calculations, you dont have that against a made flush or a set. So if you think, his range is skewed towards that kind of nutted hand, then this is a fold.

However I will somewhat question, how often people just move all-in on the flop for a massive overbet like this, if they flop a flush. Would he not want to get action, if he essentially flopped the nuts? And if this is more skewed towards semi-bluffs like AK or KJ with K of hearts, then your equity booms, and its probably a fine call. You are never printing money here though, so there is also something to be said for avoiding the variance and "finding a better spot", even though calling and losing wont send you out of the tournament.
 
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I agree with Fundiver. Your decision will depend solely on the possible range of the opponent. But with a hand like A8o you can easily get dominated, so I wouldn't rely on overcards. On the other hand, if the villain is playing an overpair, and judging by the quick all-in there is something like that, the ace strengthens your flush draw quite strongly.
 
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