$Freeroll NLHE MTT: AA in MP+2

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The BTN has this stats after 25 hands: VPIP 48 PFR 16 Limp pre-flop 46 Post flop AGG 1.14 3-bet 29

My thinking was pre-flop I raise standard 3x, on the flop I bet 2/3 pot for protection (I believe that a spade spade hand will call here and a A5 will call also), the turn doesn't change much for me...I think that I have the best hand here so I want to get max value from the hands that I said before.....and I am happy also if he folds. I don't think that he will call pre-flop with 58, 53 so I don't believe that on the turn he has a straight.

Is my way of thinking off here?


pokerstars - 350/700 Ante 70 NL - Holdem - 9 players


BTN: 46,424 (66.3 bb)
SB: 23,640 (33.8 bb)
BB: 47,072 (67.2 bb)
UTG: 32,460 (46.4 bb)
UTG+1: 1,155 (1.7 bb)
MP: 27,415 (39.2 bb)
MP+1: 2,520 (3.6 bb)
Hero (MP+2): 120,922 (172.7 bb)
CO: 46,760 (66.8 bb)

9 players post ante of 70, SB posts 350, BB posts 700

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,680) Hero has :ac4: :ad4:
4 folds, Hero raises to 2,100, fold, BTN calls 2,100, fold, BB calls 1,400

Flop: (7,280, 3 players) :4d4: :7s4: :6s4:
BB checks, Hero bets 5,533, BTN calls 5,533, fold

Turn: (18,346, 2 players) :2h4:
Hero bets 113,219 and is all-in, BTN calls 38,721 and is all-in

River: (95,788, 2 players) :4s4:

Results: 95,788 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :4d4: :7s4: :6s4: :2h4: :4s4:
 
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You wrote "(I believe that a spade spade hand will call here and a A5 will call also), the turn doesn't change much for me...I think that I have the best hand here so I want to get max value from the hands that I said before"

Do we think a flush draw or a hand that has an open ended straight draw is going to call a 2x overbet of the pot on the turn? If that is really the case and you have that read (which I think would be near impossible to have after only 25 hands) then okay go with it but I dont see how that could be the case. So it really should be that only two pair and better hands would call such a large bet which you are behind.


Pre flop 3x is great if we can get callers with it which we did. I like your flop bet although it is larger than I would go in game it does work if again we are getting calls by hands that are worse then ours. It could be another bet where 7x sees your pre flop raise and then 3/4 pot on flop and thinks there is too great a chance you have an overpair and folds. In that case then the sizing is too large. Overall though I think its fine.


I mentioned the turn above where I dont think you can reasonably expect one pair, or draw hands to call this bet. So to me you are making a negative expectation bet that is only getting called when you are beat. I would recommend 50-60% pot on the turn and then evaluate river whether you want to jam, check to induce a bluff, or check and just pure evaluate.
 
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Preflop
Totally fine to go 3X with stacks above 50BB deep.

Flop
This is a really bad flop for an overpair, and I am not in stack-off mode with an SPR of more than 6 and a multiway pot. So while I am ok betting here, I prefer a slightly smaller sizing to not bloat the pot to much. I feel, that if you start building a really big pot, you typically end up getting action only from hands, that beat you or have coinflip equity like for instance pair + OESD, which is 13 outs. I honestly also dont hate a check here basically hoping to see a disconnected non-spade card on the turn, before I start building the pot.

Turn
You got a pretty ideal blank, so definitely on board with betting, but not with moving all-in for 2X the pot. Now I think, you really create a situation, where you mostly get action, when you are beat. Yes ok its a freeroll, so maybe people will make some incorrect calls. But I just dont see any need to play your hand like this. Just bet something normal like half pot and then make a decision on the river.
 
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The BTN has this stats after 25 hands: VPIP 48 PFR 16 Limp pre-flop 46 Post flop AGG 1.14 3-bet 29

My thinking was pre-flop I raise standard 3x, on the flop I bet 2/3 pot for protection (I believe that a spade spade hand will call here and a A5 will call also), the turn doesn't change much for me...I think that I have the best hand here so I want to get max value from the hands that I said before.....and I am happy also if he folds. I don't think that he will call pre-flop with 58, 53 so I don't believe that on the turn he has a straight.

Is my way of thinking off here?


PokerStars - 350/700 Ante 70 NL - Holdem - 9 players


BTN: 46,424 (66.3 bb)
SB: 23,640 (33.8 bb)
BB: 47,072 (67.2 bb)
UTG: 32,460 (46.4 bb)
UTG+1: 1,155 (1.7 bb)
MP: 27,415 (39.2 bb)
MP+1: 2,520 (3.6 bb)
Hero (MP+2): 120,922 (172.7 bb)
CO: 46,760 (66.8 bb)

9 players post ante of 70, SB posts 350, BB posts 700

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,680) Hero has :ac4: :ad4:
4 folds, Hero raises to 2,100, fold, BTN calls 2,100, fold, BB calls 1,400

Flop: (7,280, 3 players) :4d4: :7s4: :6s4:
BB checks, Hero bets 5,533, BTN calls 5,533, fold

Turn: (18,346, 2 players) :2h4:
Hero bets 113,219 and is all-in, BTN calls 38,721 and is all-in

River: (95,788, 2 players) :4s4:

Results: 95,788 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: :4d4: :7s4: :6s4: :2h4: :4s4:

Thank you for posting

Your study point here is range refinement.

Do you study ranges at all? Do you have GTO range charts? The free membership to Jonathan Littles training site allows you access to charts

At 60bbs the BTN is calling with 77 66 44 76s 65s 54s All AXs most Kxs Half of the Qxs half the Jxs

The BB also has the above range .

A good study point for you would be to input these ranges into Equilab and look at your equity in this spot. Do not forget to include preflop calls that missed this board to get the real flop equity.

Another study point is to ponder how a V plays a set on this board. Do they trap when you big bet flop indicating the type of hand you had? Do these V think you will play AK no flush draw this way? Flop and turn?

Range refine the turn and put that knew range into Equilab what do the results suggest? Do not exclude the sets as the BTN will trap on this flop.
Would an over pair call the turn shove?

Hope this helps
:):)
 
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